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Originally Posted by Guest
So just to explain further where I'm coming from - my disappointment with the media goes back way before Trump for President was even an idea. My thinking is that had the media not become so biased, there would never had been a need for Fox News, and it certainly would not have been so successful. Now, do I believe everything on Fox news? Of course not. I think it is difficult to decipher the truth, or at least get the whole story no matter which channel you watch, which again was probably the reason for the rise of the likes of Fox - to at least be able to hear the other side. Like my husband always says the truth often lies somewhere in the middle. So here is what I do take special note of and that's people being interviewed, one-on-one, to at least get some first hand perspective on the situation that's up for discussion. I'm surprised that you are so trusting of the media. Has it not been aparent to you the difference between the way they have treated Obama vs Trump, or any Republican for that matter vs Obama or the Clinton's? This is one area that I have to agree with Don B - although he thinks it's all propaganda, i do believe anymore that most of it is, and unless you are reading between the lines you are just feeding into what it is they want you to believe.
Now onto Trump, I have read about him - the good, the bad, and the downright ugly, and I did know about the connection between him and the National Inquirer. I know your distaste for him is palpable as you have voiced it on here over and over. I agree with you that he lies, or at the very least changes his story quite a bit. But like so many other Presidents (and by the way, didn't many of them lie too?) I tend to pay more attention to what they do than what comes out of their mouths. People's actions often say a lot more about them than their words in my book. So far I have been pretty happy with some of what has occurred since Trump took office.
Much of what I say and believe may in fact be proven wrong in time, but for now I prefer to proceed with caution on all fronts. Although I did not care for Obama, I accepted that he was our President and prayed for him and our country. I will do the same for this President.
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When I respond to you, I need to be careful. I get in a mode with all these smart mouth trolls where I feel on the defensive.
So....the media.
Is or has there been a media bias. YEP, I agree and always have. I hope I remember what I am thinking near the end of what I want so say, but yes, there has been a bias to the left on the media for sure.
It is tough to decipher the truth, and harder today than a year or so ago. I have always advocated on here insuring you get your facts and get them straight and that can be difficult in this age.
I never said I TRUSTED the media as you say. Never...I simply said that the main stream media does not lie, and there is a huge difference in that, and one that Trump plays on. I have said it many times......we have a responsibility to insure we understand both sides and that takes some time and work. LYING by the media would be simply not telling the truth or making things up...they, despite what our President says do not do that, and I welcome anyone to disprove that.
HE KNOWS very well that he must keep attacking the media because that keeps most of his followers, who will not take the time to check on facts, in line and believing he is being mistreated. He did it during the campaign and does it today. They report what he says....he is the President...he cannot call it fake news when he tweets it, but he does and that is for his followers.
The fake news began with the Russia move back a few years ago and on this forum we have people linking to places like ZEROHEDGE which is a Russian backed site that comes across as a conservative web site,but it is fake in the sense that they are leading you down THEIR path, not a path of truth.
Fake news is NOT when you dont like it......calling a journalist a liar who quotes you is indefensible, yet the President has done it a number of times with no consequences. He knows what he is doing and until that 38% wake up and call him on it, he will continue and to have a President who will lie to the american public and have them accept it is beyond scary frankly.
I would like you to link me to the next news that is news and not commentary that you feel is propaganda or fake. PLEASE....link it and let me read it and we can discuss.
NOT commentary but NEWS that is fake.
Baldwin is an idiot as are most who feel they are being lied to. This little gambit of calling the media liars and my truth is the only truth has been played before in our history, a number of times and many times by guys just like Baldwin. History reveals a number of people who did EXACTLY the same thing....attack those who report what you are doing
HOW can the President lying to the American public not be a big deal to you ? HOW ? The american citizens, especially in the case of national emergency are completely dependent on him telling us the truth.
WE have to disagree about anything you think he has accomplished. Signing EO's is not accomplishing anything....they will simply be the subject of reverse EOs when the next guy gets in. He has changed every single thing he promised to do, and let me be clear....much of his program was ok with me....HE WILL NEVER BE......we flat out do not need a liar in the White House. Let me step back....not a liar on policy...like Obama saying that you can keep your doctor if you want...many Presidents have done that and most not in the most intentional of ways, but feeling accusing our past president of a felony with no facts, claiming voter fraud with no facts, firing 3 good honest justice department employees...for what....because they were investigating HIM. Speaking with scorn of our justice system...why...because they did not agree with him...and on it goes and ALL OF THIS DONE on a WORLD WIDE STAGE.
He actually mocked the German leader when she was here and on a world stage once again used Fox as his source for things...NOT the USA intelligence agencies but FOX and it was proven wrong.
I said on here when he was elected that I could support much of what he says, but he has not changed. Not even tried....
I consider him to to be the most unamerican man ever in the WH....imagine.....having Russian spy head in the WH where prior he was not welcome...and having nothing but the Russian government press there and them alone. This is unamerican no matter how you cut it...we can debate what he said to them but it does not matter.
The most recent example with his son....have no idea of what was talked about, but even responding to the Russian GOVERNMENT who said they would give you material on your opponent is dispicable. His entire story has been debunked totally...not the content because that is secondary now. They lie and continually change stories and you explain why that is...why do they lie when discussing Russians.....why have they all "forgotten" about meetings with Russians...why do they change stories and only when they get CAUGHT?
Sorry....ABBY I honestly tried but I read a lot......I am not conned by any media....I read both sides of the story always. I flat out do not trust chronic and compulsive liars...not in my personal life and more importantly, not in our White House.
Sorry if scrambled...doing this in a hurry.