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Old 07-18-2017, 05:03 PM
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So getting back to you on this, I see we do agree on some things. Media bias and not trusting without verifying to name 2. I don't think I alluded to fake news, but was attempting to state how the whole story is often not told because it tends to lean toward one side or another. News today is often presented in a way in which it leads viewers to a certain way of thinking - from wikipedia: Propaganda is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view".

You asked me about the President lying. All I can say is that if the condition for selecting a President is that he not be a liar, then I guess my choices would be slim to none. As far as selecting between him and Hillary, I can only say my justification would be better the liar I don't know than the one I am sure of. Not voting in this election was just something I could not do, and voting for anyone else IMO was the same as not voting - why waste my time? What I knew about Trump prior to the election was mostly about his achievements, and of course his divorces. IMO what we needed most at the time was someone who could drive our economy in the right direction. Without confidence in that arena, again my opinion, we were doomed to fail.

He has done more that the EO's that you have stated. He picked an excellent Supreme Court justice for one thing. Maybe because so many on here are living the retired life, but I for one am not, and I can tell you there is MUCH more confidence out here where jobs and hiring are concerned. I have seen many positions that were put on hold for years now being filled. Many more people are now being bumped up from part-time to full-time employment. Many business owners are more optimistic after years of discouragement. And this is not just in one sector, but in many. To me, this is not only vital to the "health" of our economy, but of our country as a whole.

So pardon me for being a little optimistic about our President. Of course, only time will tell the whole story, but I see a President who is making things happen despite the worst odds. And by that, I mean the terrible press coverage and the ugliness expressed by the populace that opposes him. Compare that to Obama's coronation by the press and the meekness of the revolt by his dissenters. I'm not saying that Trump doesn't create his own drama by the things he says and tweets at times. But if you remember, Obama had his own way of causing drama as well with how he treated Republicans, police, and his provocation of racism. Neither are perfect and both are liars. I would some day love to vote for that perfect President. Unfortunately, we are all human and the bad comes along with the good. It all comes down to the question - which would you choose? And the bottom line is that in making that choice we are all different, which leads one to the conclusion that the only answer to getting along sometimes is the acceptance of the premise to agree to disagree.
Since I very much appreciate how you approach these discussions, it is probably wise I take a break from our conversations.

We see things totally and completely different, and what best illustrates that is your comment on two things.

You sort of shrug off Trump's lying as ordinary politics. I see it so much differently because he is lying daily as President of the United States and doing it chronically on important issues. I know the Times and a few others track his lies on a daily basis, and it is voluminous. And you cannot even find any politician in any position, let alone the President, who ever ever in history has lied so much about substantial issues....the entire world watches and listens.

On the media, I propose until you prove otherwise....Trump has manipulated you and his followers to believe he is getting a raw deal from the media. He is the President...what he says and does is news, they report what he says and what he does. They report it honestly and he calls it unfair. How does that work ? He accuses a President of a felony but they should ignore that ? Many other examples and the media reports it...that is and has always been their job.

Frustrated that you think the media reporting FACTUALLY is considered "terrible press coverage". He makes he news, they report it. You seem to feel that they should allow him to pick of what he says or does, AND FRANKLY THAT IS HIS GOAL. It appears to be working. You can think things like what is happening with the daily briefings (eliminating have White House on tape), and total absence of press conferences are minor. They are steps.....he seems to have you convinced.

Again, I challenge you to present a news report, not commentary, that is inaccurate. He does it or says it...they report it.