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Originally Posted by Guest
Originally Posted by Guest
There would be no MS-13 gang
I must disagree. Note that the thread of the conversation is not about gangs in general, but about MS-13.
Although reputedly being formed in Los Angeles, MS-13 arguably has roots in El Salvador. In fact the S in MS-13 stands for Salvador, and trucha, which translates roughly into street smarts. The gang was formed by immigrants who had fled El Salvador's long and brutal civil war. Other members came from Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico.
And now, with the end of the Obama administration, the new law enforcement emphasis on apprehending and deporting MS-13 members clearly discloses that the bulk of the members of this gang are in the United States due to illegal immigration.
If this were not true we would not be able to deport them.
Carl in Tampa
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You quote me partially without addressing my point and your quoting of me since it was selective, is out of context.
I am aware of the history of this gang, but my point on this issue is and remains.
We cannot simply BY EACH ADMINISTRATION submit EOs that fir our political position. You can do a lot with an EO and it lasts until the next administration.
We must have legislation, on a bi partisan basis that afpddresses this. It is not easy...I think Reagan once said about immigration.."tell me what to do and I will do it"...,it is damn hard.
I certainly do not oppose any actions being taken, and have tried to be clear on that, but it will last until a new party, or a new administration with different views.
EO's are a terrible way to run a country in any subject.
I simply suggest , nobody much looks at the economic conditions that allows these gangs to get a footing and to thrive. THAT needs to be addressed WITHIN A COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION bill, that addresses it within the confines of immigration.
We continue to chase our tail. We never, and since I sense an anti OBama vibe here, I am speaking of both his administration and Trump. My biggest complaint.....well....the President must understand he is President and not a candidate. He, any President is supposed to lead, and use his bully pulpit and the power of the office, not to continue to campaign but to reach out and bring sides together to solve the COUNTRY'S problems, not to continue campaign bashing.
That is why it is a hard job...That is why I speak of honesty and integrity. You must get people to trust you, ALL AMERICANS. If this job was easy...none of this matters, but it is hard. It is not as simple as being projected here.
Folks make this sound simple..it's not. None of this replaces a USA immigration policy and it seems to me we are not even working on one.
Maybe I am more correct than I thought when I say both parties have gone extreme and neither cares about anything but their party.
To those who slam government as if not needed, I will tell you...without NATIONAL legislation, we are doomed to swapping EO's, and not just immigration.
To address ms13, as you know, there is some activity in Tampa and I spent time on the streets speaking, not with hard core members, but others with the same economic and social problems. We keep ignoring that, we are doomed.