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Originally Posted by Guest
Gotcha....thanks for the reply. I did miss those and I apologize. The poster had specifically outed the Republicans as well but i see where you are coming from with your last quote above. You do realize however that is the very reason Trump pulled in so many Democrat votes in blue states. At least many conservative and moderate Dems that I know saw it that way and said "no more" and voted for Trump. Being in one of those states, it was a shock to see and especially when the results came in on election night.
Since you brought up Rubicon, I have often wondered why you berate him almost everytime he posts, but I don't see you doing the same to those on the other side even though they have called Trump supporters various vile names. Isn't that also collective categorizing? As far as why I don't call him out is because he stands for what he stands for and he doesn't call out individuals by name on here. Even if I may not agree with him on everything, I respect him for acting like a gentleman. I'm not afraid of people having different views than mine. What I am fearful of is people who are not tolerant of mine and make it a point to try to shut me down because of it. (This is not necessarily directed at you, just trying to make a point.)
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oK......
First, allow me to copy and paste my terrible post you alluded to...
"The Republican party, which I served for many years, no longer represents ANY values that I care about .
I valued small government, small budget, but most importantly the Republican party stood for (at least in my mind) HONESTY, TRUTH FULLNESS, CHARACTER, AND MORALS.
Those traits have gone by the way side. It is now a party that promotes conspiracy theories, personal attack politics, and condones the seat of our government lying to the american public and debasing american institutions.'
I keep saying it over and over, the same tune, and nobody disagrees with me HOWEVER they jump to come up with some sort of reason......
Trump is a liar....plain and simple. I do not want a President who is not a liar on policy (hell, I would give him a break on that), but lies on things that do not require lying, especially if he needs to make
HIM, not the country look good. Heck, as a Republican how can you not notice he refers to his own party as
THEY...which is insulating him from any responsibility.
He has proven over and over, not just in his first 200 days but in the campaign and in his past life...
ALL of it, that he cannot be trusted. THAT is not a president I want.
Next on the same agenda.....the poster to which I replied said how the VALUES of our country were being destroyed by the Democrats. Now, there may be cases where I might agree with that poster, but as always it is a completely generic and general condemnation of millions of Americans which I have a problem with. AND with no mention of those destruction of values by the current President...not sure where to start...I always repeat these and nobody denies them.....how is it american values to publicly and on a worldwide stage demean our American Justice department, and even his own attorney General, his own intelligence agencies, firing THREE employees including the FBI director for having the audacity to investigate, he has demeaned amost every american value that we have. AND this is important.....he does it on a world stage...wherever sees it. i will stop and not mention the latest stuff, one of which...the use of boy scouts to chant his name...obliterates all kinds of American values.
ok..Rubicon......I mention him for a few reasons. First he is a prolific poster and most importantly he PREACHES DAY IN AND DAY OUT...all hate filled. You would think that ONLY he and those who totally agree have all the answers. I am sick of being labeled with some kind of syndrome that infects ONLY those who disagree with him. He has used Russian websites to make his point,; he has plagarized on more than one occassion, and yet he continues to lecture. He refuses to discuss any issues. I have challanged him by starting threads non anti Trump...simply on Syria, ISIS and a few others and he will not participate....he simply lectures and tells everyone that will listen how smart HE and Trump are and how all the latest conspiracy theories are all right.
He does this all with
NEVER EVER EVER any substantiation.
I can tell you that I may be critical but I go out of my way to show
WHY with links, etc.
He accuses the media of lying....why ? He has never shown anything to prove it, and is simply mouthing the words of Trump...you know the guy who represents the best of American values.
Sorry if criticizing him is offensive...of course I never get called names or anything, and I do not have his fan base of trolls who typically respond....GOOD POST.
Look, maybe you can tell, I am sick of the conspiracy theories (syndromes, Deep state, etc) that emanate from the deep hole of internet world. I am sick of being told how wonderful a person is who simply does not care that he is demeaning all of us to the world...FROM THE OVAL OFFICE.
This is an administration of hate and alt right. While I agree with many of the appointments he has made, and really think Kelly might help.
BOTTOM LINE....I do not want to be lectured by people on american values while supporting the lying and deception from the White House. All self serving and not for the benefit of the country. What President has an attitude about our country being attacked by cyber by attacking the group investigating what happened, or firing the FBI or welcoming that country into the White House and inviting ONLY Russian media there. Trust me, I believe in American Values....I believe in middle ground and I believer in compromise, and tired of being lectured about values by those who support a complete lack thereof.