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Originally Posted by Guest
My limited experience is in Tampa and environs speaking to and trying to understand folks in the street. Most had grievances, legit or not.
This group that so many in this forum make excuses for are simply filled with hate. Their only grievance is that everyone does not have their skin color.
This is from their website today speaking of the woman who was killed...
"Despite feigned outrage by the media, most people are glad she is dead, as she is the definition of uselessness. A 32-year-old woman without children is a burden on society and has no value.
Due to female privilege, and the fact that they do virtually nothing their entire lives, women live an average of 5 years longer than men. The average female lifespan is 81 years. That means for 49 more years, this fat slob would have been leeching off of men’s work."
Heather Heyer: Woman Killed in Road Rage Incident was a Fat, Childless 32-Year-Old Slut – Daily Stormer
Carl, you can lump all groups together should that make you feel better, you can say that torch light is an issue. These people had Nazi flags, chanted "we won, get over it", have proclaimed the President of the United States of America the "God emperor of the United States", killed a woman on purpose, celebrated that death, and if you do visit that website where the quote was, you will find other rage about the Police officers killed.
The young person driving told his mother he was going to a Trump rally. While checking the Daily Stormer website, I noticed that many if the most popular denigrating words used for anyone who opposes Trump are used quite often.
During the campaign, i and others "worried" about the rhetoric at thevTrump campaigns, and you mentioned 1930 rallies, did not the sight of our President leading young boys from the Boy Scouts chanting love for him, and hate for Clinton bring all that back.
I am shocked at the posters on here rationalizing this and making excuses. I am tired and saddened that our President is given a free pass.
A President is elected to lead, not lie and lead the hate. I am tired of those who need to find some words, saying the media is not reporting with supreme accuracy. If you speak of commentators opinions, what do you expect when commenting on a White House that has made no effort to unite, AND IN TOTAL FACT, made significant efforts to divide.
You use words well. You criticize others for understanding your little message. You speak of "guardians of history" who had their say when state lawmakers decided to place this statue in a museum. I honestly don't know what to believe about what you are saying. I detest these rallies in general from any cause. I do listen as to why the rally to determine the issue. These people, who you "seem" to equate to other groups are not the same. They are clear in their message. It is hate, no "affirmative action, no "police brutality". ....nothing but hate, and I am disappointed at you and other posters dancing around....NO LECTURE from you please....MY interpretation is "dancing around" and finding some justification for this (history, past rallies over the years, etc.) to find a way to simply call it what it is.
I, actually, and hopefully am correct as nightfall arrives, at restraint shown by those who oppose storm troopers in brown shirts with ZERO grievance, armed to the teeth, chanting hate.
We will see if the political rhetoric from our elected President changes. I suspect it will not. This is a man who spent THREE HOURS attacking news commentators just a few weeks ago because he was criticized. This weekend has been a revelation, not unexpected, but while most of the hard right folks on here find any reason to continue to support hate from our WH, I have given up. If he is accomplishing what you want.....troops in Venzuela was a shocker, and Carl...no lectures...I know what is going in in Venzuela and need no lectures. I simply believe words have consequences...especially from the President through the world, and one of the results of preaching hate and chants is what we saw this weekend, and they promise they are just starting.
There was NO confrontation between political extremists this weekend, and torchlight marches will stop when the rhetoric filled with accusations, never founded stops.
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Well stated...and you've nailed him perfectly!
As I've often stated, racism...in and of itself...is not all that big of a deal. People are allowed to think whatever they want...regardless of how sick it might be.
Where racism and bigotry become intolerable, is when people who hold those views...have ANY type of authority or power over others.
He says he used to be a Secret Service employee, so any decent and reasonable person has to wonder how many times he applied his now outed and documented racist/bigoted views...against those who he had authority over?
It is THAT ugly, abominable underbelly of this country, that is now coming forth more and more...since the election of Trump.
It's totally wishful thinking, but I think it would be wonderful to have a nationwide investigation into all of the people just like Carl who are now coming out of the closet and review their careers and how they dealt with racial issues...by a committee that had integrity and ethics.
The scary part of course, is wondering how many more like CIT...are still working and have power/authority over others?
So that I don't have to repeat myself, and since it applies to this thread also, here's a link to an earlier post of mine...
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...92-post29.html
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore
Backed into what corner? Hell, I'm having a blast watching those who were mostly secret racists/bigots before Trump came along...finally coming out of the closet. 
It makes it a whole lot easier identifying them.
I make observations on FACTS...and base my viewpoints on them.
I have never said,nor even implied, that ALL conservatives are racist (with Trump cultists however, the % gets a whole lot higher).
Just like Trump and all of his Cultists, you and your ilk take umbrage and call something 'fake news,' simply because someone had the audacity to actually take the time to point out... what was actually said and/or written and there is a record of it. 
Carl made his position very clear, when he tried denigrating BLM and cherry-picking a few of the people calling for cops to be killed (which by ANY standards, is abhorrent), yet just like Trump and the rest of you...he totally ignores/discounts the issues that led to the need for a Black Lives Matter type movement in the first place.
Instead, you try and change the argument by saying 'all lives matter.'
Of course all lives matter...that's NOT what is at issue.
Because it's certainly not young, white males that are being killed or discriminated against..with very little justice.
Instead, you racists and bigots want to focus on the name of the movement...and the few outrageous scumbags calling for retribution killings.
Oh wait, that's right, blacks aren't being killed for little/no reason, whites on the right are constantly calling for changes because of it and cops aren't getting away with it in a lot of cases...how silly of me to forget that.
So please, trying to draw a false equivalency of BLM to white supremicists/neo-nazi's/alt-right is about as ignorant as walking into an Italian restaurant and screeching... "French food matters."
But, if you're a racist or bigot...that doesn't matter to you. |