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Originally Posted by Guest
"To begin, atheism involves a logical fallacy known as a universal negative. Simply stated, a person would have to be omniscient and omnipresent to be able to say "there is no God" from his own pool of knowledge. Only someone capable of being in all places at the same time — with a perfect knowledge of all that is in the universe — can make such a statement based on the facts. In other words, a person would have to be God to say there is no God. Hence, the assertion is logically indefensible."
This makes sense Don
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Oh please...YOU are the one claiming something exists...prove it. I've heard there are geese who lay golden eggs...can you PROVE they don't exist?
YOUR
claim is logically indefensible. You CAN'T prove something doesn't exist...but that's NOT my job...it's YOUR JOB to PROVE it does...otherwise it's just a story...like MANY others.
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Originally Posted by Guest
You don't get to set the rules on how God behaves when he becomes incarnate on Earth. You are also not the first to make that mistake.
Your reliance on the need for ancient documents to bolster your belief is naive and touching. Perhaps you could produce the cup from which Socrates drank the hemlock. Or, for that matter, any original document that he wrote. Can't? Oh, then by your logic there was no Socrates.
Did the Seven Wonders of the World exist? Really? Where? We see the pyramids, but have no idea where the Hanging Gardens of Babylon were located. Except, maybe somewhere in Babylon, of course.
Was there really a great poet and play writer named Shakespeare, or was all of that work written by Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford? Prove your answer.
Your problem continues to be a demand for proof when Christianity is based upon faith.
And, as I have already observed. You are not seeking Truth, but rather a way to reject Christian teachings.
Carl in Tampa
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I'm NOT claiming there WAS a Socrates/Jesus...YOU are.
I don't have to prove anything...I'm NOT making the claim...YOU are. YOU prove Shakespeare existed if you claim he did. Many believe "Shakespeare WAS more than one persons writings. Same with Homer.
was shakespeare real - Google Search
YOUR problem is you accept faith with no proof.
"You don't get to set the rules on how God behaves when he becomes incarnate on Earth."
Maybe not...but I sure as hell CAN tell "God" what he did wrong. You'd think an all powerful. all knowing "God" would have thought it through a little better and maybe left a few writings...SOME real hard evidence he was here...his message...in a concrete form so we'd never forget. Why not? God WANTED people to have to remember orally? Make their own interpretation?
Do you think Islam is "wrong"? Judaism? Hinduism? Buddhism? Which Christian sect has it right?
Catholic Church - 1.285 billion.
Protestantism - 800 million.
Eastern Orthodoxy - 270 million.
Oriental Orthodoxy - 86 million.
Anglicanism - 85 million.
Restorationism and Nontrinitarianism - 35 million.
Independent Catholicism - 18 million.
I posit...NONE of them. YOU go ahead and PROVE one of them IS correct.
The onus is on YOU to PROVE what you believe in is REAL. It's NOT up to me to disprove it.
I can't believe that in 2017 there are people who believe in a "God" who created the universe, created life, including us...who CARES what each and every one of us is doing/thinking at all times...and is judging us to determine whether we deserve heaven or hell. IF he knows EVERYTHING...he knew the answer BEFORE we were born.
The biggest question is...where did "God" come from? The most powerful, smartest thing even beyond the universe...just happened? Was always there?
I don't think so...
Let me comment on your picture...do you notice the difference? I do. The WHITE guy is a VOLUNTEER...the black guy...is WORKING...he's getting PAID to do it. White people VOLUNTEER...a LOT...blacks...hardly EVER. There's the difference.