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Originally Posted by Guest
Faith does not require proof or evidence.
If I am wrong and you are right, I have lost nothing by believing.
If I am right and you are wrong, YOU have lost your soul and will pay not only for your lack of faith but your denying of the one and only GOD.
I guess that means that I have insurance.
That may seem simple, but I can live with that a lot better than you can live with your arrogance that gives you absolutely NO hope. A socialist that gives the government his faith becomes a communist. All of those man and government based ideologies have been tried and failed, but a system based on deity faith has survived and will survive until man is finally destroyed by his own arrogance. Self proclaimed scholars have always attempted to argue the fallacy of a Bible based faith, but in the end all of them lose. I wonder why it is so important for a few to win an argument to destroy another's faith. Is it because they feel doomed and wish company? Are they just miserable people that wish ill of others? Perhaps there is an evil in the world and the idea that "the devil made me do it" is not so ridiculous, and those naysayers are instruments of that evil?
Think about this; there is evidence of divine design in all of nature, but there is NO evidence that the existence of GOD is a lie. Even the big bang theory requires intelligent design.
Like I said above, my faith costs me nothing and may(WILL) gain me eternity. A lack of faith gains you nothing, even if you are right (and you aren't).
By the way, you argue small points as documented in the Bible attempting to destroy what you believe is faith. My faith does not require the Bible. I use it as a reference to my form of faith. Destroy the Bible and I will still believe. But, I have no fear of anyone destroying the Bible. It's been around for a lot longer than any human alive and it will still be a best seller when you are gone.
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You're right...faith requires NO evidence...that's why it's so easy to keep believing even after you've grown enough to understand its falsity. They "program" you as infants when you have no "defense"...you learn to "believe in God" as naturally as you begin to speak and walk...because it's ALL you know/are taught. Are you given a choice at birth? Christian, Muslim, Hindi, Buddhist? No...you become what your parents were.
Religion is region based...depending on where you live...generally...determines your religion. It's an "accident of birth" you're a Muslim living in the ME...or an Indian Buddhist.
Sure you've lost something...your sovereignty...YOUR self determination. Did you "live a certain way" because your religion expected it? Then you paid a price. If you haven't "paid a price", then you're religious in name only and YOU are going to hell.
Say's YOU. There are another 5 billion people on the planet who disagree with Christianity. What makes you think you are right and everyone else is wrong? Arrogance?
NO...it means you THINK you have insurance. Which of the relativistic 5,000 sects are you a member of? Are you SURE you picked the right one? Do you obey ALL of God's laws? I doubt it...I doubt you even KNOW all of God's laws...it goes beyond the 10 Commandments.
What "hope"...that the afterlife will be better than here? I make HERE my heaven...I try to make HERE better.
So...THAT'S your "hope"? That man destroys himself through arrogance? You're probably right...but is it something to hope for?
Really? Who told you that? One of your religious leaders? What do you THINK they are going to tell you? The Bible does describe some true historical events...it's the WHY that is full of lies.
Oh...I don't know...maybe to keep you from living under delusion? HOW MANY delusions do you want? Religion, racial equality, gender equality...they're ALL delusions. The government is there to "help you" is another delusion. The medical industry wants to cure you...yet another.
Maybe there is and maybe there isn't "intelligent design". I don't know where it all began...why it all began...and I can live with that. I don't need to believe 5,000 year old myths conjured up by cavemen to explain things. And please explain this: The universe MUST have been created by intelligent design, it's too marvelous and complicated to have "just happened". And yet...you have NO problem believing your "Creator God" was ALWAYS there...or "just happened". It's circular reasoning and it's a dead end. I think it's better to just admit...I don't know...and keep looking for the real answers.
Your faith costs...your freedom...my lack of it gives me freedom.
Destroy the Bible and what is left to believe? Not Christianity. Didn't the NT "destroy" the OT? It's a completely different set of "values" and often contradicts the OT God. It's the ultimate relativism of the Jewish faith. Same with Islam...the same "God", completely different interpretation this one sticking more with the vengeful, punishing God. Would Jesus DESTROY entire cities? Destroy humanity with an all encompassing flood? And WHY a flood? why not leave everything and just make the "wicked" people disappear? God controls the weather, but can't make people disappear? A "rapture" sending them to hell? I mean after the flood, the plants are all gone too...what did everyone eat? Or is it impolite to question someone's "faith"?