Originally Posted by Guest

First, that did not take long.

I actually agree with this man on most. Perhaps all the quotes I have read, and from my small taste, might be correct, had to do with religion, or race.

I read a number of articles on him, both pro and con.

Let me give you his statement, that on the surface I agree with totally.....

"I will never vote for Donald Trump because I stand with certain principles. I stand with small government and free markets and religious freedom and personal responsibility. Donald Trump stands against all of these things. He stands for Planned Parenthood and trade restrictions and targeting of political enemies and an anti-morality foreign policy and government domination of religion and nastiness toward women and tacit appeals to racism and unbounded personal power. I stand with the Constitution of theUnited States, and its embedded protection of my God-given rights through governmental checks and balances. Donald Trump does not. I stand with conservatism. Donald Trump stands against it.
I stand with #NeverTrump."

Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart

This I agree with. Those who think they furthered conservatism or morals by supporting this person are so very very wrong.

This following comment was just a note in anothr article, but so very correct. It is also something I have tried to say many times, but on here the Trump folks look at everything as you are either with or against....they believe they are supporting conservatism, but that is bunk. They are supporting the extreme..very extreme alt right...

"Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism."



The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP - The Washington Post

And lastly, a link to a piece criticizing him which you may want to read.

The Hollow Bravery of Ben Shapiro - The New York Times

Thanks for being stubborn because I will pay more attention to him, although because of my reading, I re read the initial link on the media and thought it was contrived, not a realistic depiction of NEWS inaccuracy, and in some cases, in my opinion a false result was shown.

But, he and I share many viewpoints and those on here who think Trump is a conservative hero might oay attention.

He is a alt right extremist. I believe that can be fatal to this country. You, in my opinion, have false hopes for this President, and become part of the problem by supporting him. The bigotry, and apparent need to further our divides, along with what can only be called a total lack of morals and character is beyond troubling. He lied his way in, and is lying still.

Originally Posted by Guest

You make some good points and I will take a look at those links when I get a chance......getting ready to go out here shortly myself. Just one quick question I have for you in the meantime. What is it you think that those of us who appear to continue to support Trump, should do at this point? I ask this, not facetiously or sarcastically, but honestly. My viewpoint is that he is our President, and like him or not, I would want this country to succeed not fail. Let me further explain that since my background comes from one that is more faith based than some, I always believe that God is in the details and I know He can use people for good whether they are His people or not. In saying that, maybe you will understand why my viewpoint is one of more optimism than another person's. I can't control whether he is the President or not at this point and I don't think spending my time tearing him down is going to help or change anything, nor is it good for my well-being. Your thoughts?

Hey, it's Sunday.......I had to throw my "sermon" in there.