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Old 10-21-2017, 11:16 AM
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No President has attacked our First Amendment rights more viciously than Trump. He is Hitlerian in his insistence of "fake news" and has convinced many of his followers that the media is "nothing short of disgusting". It is the job of the press to report what the President says and does. A free press is the ONLY thing that stands between us and dictatorship. The Gold Star phone call fiasco is, indeed, a prime example. That phone call, as was repeatedly proved, was on a speakerphone in a car full of people who heard and reported EXACTLY what was said. It was Trump who made a big deal about it, who lied about it, who threatened (falsely) that he could "prove" he was correct. That's only one of the many times he threatened he could "prove" something that he could not-in short, he lied, he lied about lying, then he threatened.

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The Press in the Third Reich
But, Rubicon (and of course Gracie) does not feel having a President who attacks freedom of speech, openly lies, makes phoney accusations is really an issue worth discussing.

So, Rubicon and Gracie,.....you KNOW factually (let me know if you need lots of backup for that) that the President is a chronic, impulsive liar (note the firestorm he began this week by lying) You also know he makes serious, felonious accusation never supplying any substance for them, just destroying people personally.

BUT you do not feel that is an issue to be concerned with at all, and seem irritated that anyone would want to discus that.

At the same time, you attack ALL media as liars, and accuse them of making things up. Factually, your chosen network is the ONLY one where substantiated fallacies occur. The ONLY one. These attacks by you two are NEVER EVER substantiated.

You express or did yesterday, annoyance when people supply links and cut and paste info to substantiate what they say. You, neither of you ever even read links provided, I suppose because everyone is lying.

You also attack fellow Americans for, as you say, not being responsible for their actions, but do not hold your own President responsible EVER.

You lecture about morals and character, especially with minorities and/or immigrants yet you support a very immoral person in the WH.

Why do I mention Rubicon and Gracie by name.

Because they simply cannot help themselves making judgements on others. They lecture all the time.

I sure am tired of it....I don't see them as oracles, just anti Americans (all you can be if you support attacking our constitution and support deception from the White House) who, for some reason, support a man instead of their country.

What he set loose this past week was inexcusable BUT you excuse it.