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Originally Posted by Guest
Another issue is the rampant gerrymandering done by both sides. A statewide vote on Senators cures, at least, that problem.
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Hey dumb b!tch...gerrymandering was already discussed...if you weren't a whiney b!tch who can't handle the truth...you wouldn't have half the people here on "ignore" and miss all the good talk and ideas that go on.
Now watch...she'll prove she's a b!tch AND a liar...she'll reply.
Hey peter-puffer I've got you. I can say ANYTHING about you I want...and you can't reply...because it would show you're ANOTHER of the lying b!tches here who say one thing and do another.
A typical woman.
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Originally Posted by Guest
I'm not saying that it would totally eliminate all corruption, but it would reduce it significantly.
IMHO, and I believe this was the opinion of the founders as well, the larger the population being represented, the less they really know about the candidates. If we're electing someone for the local city council, there's a chance that he might be your next door neighbor and you would know a lot about him. Someone running as a state representative from your town is again, very well known to make of the residents.
A person running for the house of representatives is not as well know by the voters because a district is larger than a city or town, but the founders felt that he was close enough to the electors so that they couldn't easily be fooled. I'm not sure that's the case any longer.
A person running for The United States Senate is only going to be well known to a relatively small percentage of voters in that state. By well known, I don't mean his campaign rhetoric or his stated positions, I mean well known like your neighbors or local merchants. That is why the founders decided that it's a better idea to trust the people that we elect directly, and know very well, to choose who should represent us as a state.
It's also part of the reason for the electoral college. The thing is that we really don't know very much about the people running for president. We only know what the campaigns put out about them, what they promise to do and what their positions on various issues supposedly are. Some may say that we can look at their records. The problem with that is that Congress is so convoluted today that members records are obscured by trickery employed in both houses. Some people have no political record so we really only know what we're told. It's also a lot of work to dig and find out anything about these people.
We elect local people to represent us and we can clearly see what kind of job they do. I would trust these people to elect a senator to represent me more than I would my fellow citizens who have no idea who they are electing.
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No it won't. When EVERYONE in a system is corrupt...you CAN'T fix that system. It needs to go. We need to purge the entire government leadership and start over without parties. It won't happen. We NEED a "french Revolution" to FIX our government.
Of course that's true...you can only "know" about 50 people...past that and you just don't have the brainpower to keep track of any more. A lot of people need a "media", a source for information...the problem with that is bias and accuracy. EVERYONE is bias and removing it from a "report" is very hard.
So a FEW people will know him "personally"...what about the other 100,000? The other million? They don't KNOW him...they know...again...what the biased media tells them. It's really the SAME only on a smaller scale.
How well do you REALLY "know" those from your town? I could be your neighbor here in the Villages...IF I'm your neighbor...how well do you KNOW me? People put on a facade...they have a public image...many a very different in private.
We're ALL fooled...that hasn't changed.
You can't trust ANY of them...they are ALL corrupt. The party is corrupt and everyone in it. LEADERSHIP roles of course...I'm not saying the secretary or janitor are corrupt.
The EC was formed to give "the system" absolute control over elections. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHOM WE VOTE FOR...THE ELECTORS CAN VOTE FOR
ANYONE! They're pledged to their party...but
they ARE free to vote for ANYONE. I can't overemphasize that point. An independent will never "seize control" because the EC will prevent it. HELL...we don't even need the EC because the electronic voting machines can be programmed to cheat.
You KNOW what the media tells you...and the media IS biased. ALL you need to know is...do they have a D or R after their name? If they do...they're corrupt...guaranteed...Trump is corrupt too...he's "playing ball". Don't believe the media circus, it's ALL distraction, misdirection, theater to keep the population divided.
They transfer money from the treasury to corporations...or to poor people who give it to corporations. That is what your congressmen and senators DO.
WHAT kind of job DO they do? Outside a small WHITE town...they screw things up. ALL the large cities are minority dominated...the people AND the "leaders". And they're ALL falling apart and broke...JUST LIKE THE COUNTRIES THE MINORITIES CAME FROM.
They're ALL corrupt at that level of government...does it matter WHO elects the crook? He's still a crook.