[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

None of them will charge it if you just refuse to pay it. This also applies to worthless dealer installed options. The best way to buy a new car is to do your homework online and know what the car is worth, including taxes, tag fees, current rebates, and trade-in value. Then, only discuss the out-the-door price with the dealer, and don't bother looking at the stupid dealer breakdown items and bogus invoices. I also recommend that you not sit at the saleperson's little desk and wait around while he/she goes to talk to the sales manager, and be prepared to walk out the door. Never pay a deposit for a car that will be delivered from another dealership. And, don't waste time with a buying service. Follow these rules and you can avoid getting ripped off. I purchased a car a few months ago, test drove the car I wanted, handed the salesperson a slip of paper with the out-the door price including trade-in, and told him he had 15 minutes to accept it or I was leaving. I was polite, but refused to discuss anything else, and they accepted the offer.

retireguy123, you seem very knowledgeable in this area, so do you know of any reliable websites that would provide the "dealer cost" I have access to: consumer reports, AAA, and AARP, but have not checked on them for accuracy. Or should I rely on KBB, TrueCar, or something else?