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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr
When the pilgrims first came to this land, there was no country here. There were simply tribal peoples. The land wasn't considered to be "owned" by anyone or considered to be part of any country.
So making a comparison to the first European people to come here and illegal immigrants is ludicrous.
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Which of course, was the
'ludicrous reasoning' behind what amounted to the attempted genocide...of the native Americans already living here.
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr
A country has since been formed and as a country, we have laws that determine who may enter. This is not different from any other sovereign country on earth.
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Conveniently ignoring that this is by far, the most significant country in history...to have been made almost entirely by immigrants.
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr
No one is against any people of any religion immigrating here.
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That is an outright lie, that even the most naive person...realizes as such.
One only has to read the plethora of posts...proving you wrong.
In fact, there are about 32% (depending on the weekly poll), of people who would prefer not to have any of a certain religion immigrate here.
A recent election was won, by preying on the fear of being killed by something/someone that is
thousands of times less likely to kill you...than heart disease, obesity, driving vehicles, etc.
Those
facts, in and of themselves...shows how wrong your statement is.
Besides a massive prejudice toward a certain religion, what do you suppose could be the reason people are so afraid of dying from someone of that religion even when their odds are so much less...than the other causes I've listed?
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr
Most of the terrorists that have attacked us, (it's probably a good idea to remember that we were attacked and continue to be attacked) came from Muslim majority countries. If they had come and continued to come from Ireland, it would be prudent to look more closely at people trying to immigrate from Ireland.
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Since I've already eviscerated the premise of your argument, let's move on to my previous question, of which you dodged, on why the predominately Muslim country that supplied most of the 9/11 perpetrators...was not on the list?
A person would have to be a fool, not to think that economic ties of certain people...wasn't the driving reason behind the choices of the predominately Muslim countries that didn't make the list.
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr
There is absolutely no rational argument that can be made against looking closely at who immigrates to this country and knowing who and where non-U.S. citizens are in this county.
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I agreed above with this.
What I want to know, is how the accuracy of these background checks can be trusted?
Politics, power and those in the upper echelons of our government/private citizenry will have an outsize say in these choices...just as it has always been.
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr
No one is implying that all Muslims are terrorists. But no one can deny that the vast majority of terrorists who have been attacking us over the past 16 years have been Muslims.
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You do mean except for Oklahoma, Columbine, Charleston, Sandy Hook, Aurora, etc.....right?
What did all of those have in common?
Most Of America’s Terrorists Are White, And Not Muslim | HuffPost
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There were almost twice as many terrorist incidents by right-wing extremists as by Islamist extremists in the U.S. from 2008 to 2016, according to a new report from The Nation Institute’s Investigative Fund and The Center for Investigative Reporting’s Reveal.
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr
These people believe in an extremist form of Islam with which most Muslims disagree. Those Muslims want to kill as many U.S. citizens that they can and want to destroy our country and turn the entire world into a theocracy based on their religious belief. According to some on the left, we should ignore this threat and pretend that it does not exist because it might appear that we are discriminating on the basis of race or religion. That's utter nonsense.
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Speaking of being ludicrous.
We shouldn't ignore ANY threat, but some people only choose to acknowledge the ones...that fit their own bias'.