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Your economic logic is half right. As supply diminishes price goes up. When price goes up demand for alternatives goes up, meaning electric cars look cheaper.
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What you miss is that your "world saving" batteries DON'T get built without a LOT of energy...that energy is mostly oil. You may save some oil driving the car...but you used just about all...if not all or more...oil making the car...because battering need a lot of energy to create. Lithium is in limited supply you're NOT going to turn ALL the vehicles into electric.
" The U.S. Geological Survey produced a reserves estimate of lithium in early 2015, concluding that the world has enough known reserves for about 365 years of current global production of about 37,000 tons per year (Figure 1). Current production goes to a little over one-third for ceramics, almost one-third for batteries, and miscellaneous uses for the last one-third. The same report finds about 39.5 million metric tons of “resources,” which is a less firm category than “reserves.” "Resources" include supplies that could feasibly be extracted economically at some point in the future, whereas reserves estimates refer to current economic viability.
Even though 365 years of reserve supply sounds very comforting, the point of the EV and stationary storage revolutions is that current demand will shoot up, way up, if these revolutions do happen. The 100 Gigafactories scenario could come true. And if that happens, the 365-year supply would be less than a 17-year supply (13.5 million tons of reserves divided by 800,000 = 16.9 years).
Can lithium batteries scale up? According to this quick and purely speculative math, the short answer is, with current reserves, not just no, but hell no. With known lithium “resources” at 39.5 million tons, we get about 50 years of supply with 100 Gigafactories, which is a bit more comforting, but still not exactly a viable long-term solution."
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2016 subsidy for wind was 1.3 cents per kw. I'd gladly pay that to keep sulfur and particulates out of my lungs and to know that my grandchildren aren't facing the end of times.
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America IS facing the "end of times" as it's gone from 90% white to the current 49% and it'll be 20% in just 30 years.
America has BIGGER problems than climate change and pollution.
We're being bred out.