[QUOTE=Guest]ANOTHER tangent...

No...YOU care what it costs in DOLLARS...I'm talking about ENERGY cost...HOW MUCH ENERGY DID IT TAKE TO MAKE THE BATTERIES...your battery car costs/requires multiples MORE in ENERGY costs (energy USED) to manufacture and keep charged.

If "gas" goes up to $5 a gallon...the dollar COST of your batteries WILL go up too, the dollar COST of charging them WILL go up too.

It IS a "zero sum" equation. As oil goes up...everything goes up with it. Because there is NOTHING that can replace oil right now.

I'm not sure why you can't grasp this but I'll try again. If you buy a battery for your flashlight the cost of all of the energy to make that battery is included in the purchase price. It has to be less than the purchase price or the battery company would lose money on every battery and they soon would be out of business. Everready batteries have been around for a long time. Flashlight battery or battery for an electric car the economics are the same.
Next year I am going to buy a Chevy Bolt, an all electric car. Purchase price (without subsidies) is 38K. It will save me 10k in gasoline costs over its lifetime. If I compare it to gas cars costing 28k they come out ahead, more room and no limit on range but not by much. In today's prices the EV is almost price competitive. Why am I doing it, I want to say the the Koch brothers,Saudis, Iranians and Russians try being poor for awhile. If my economic analysis of buying an EV tomorrow is wrong please show me the error. Please don't try to baffle with scientific bull**** you don't understand.