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Old 01-02-2018, 10:39 PM
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First, entropy has nothing to do with mechanical loss. Don't believe me talk to someone else with a degree in chemistry, chem engineering or physics. This is a fact and is not open to debate. Mechanical loss is real. Next question, is if oil is so energy dense why is electricity from oil the most expensive type of electricity. Also why is hydropower electricity one of the cheapest sources for electricity.
dougie...you just won't give up!

Leave your car out in a field for 100 years...I'll show you entropy...as ORDER (your car) becomes DISORDER (a pile of rust). Chemical breakdown IS entropy. ALL order to disorder is entropy. Oil burning, going from a long complex organic chain with stored energy to CO2 and 2H2O and releasing energy IS entropy. A charged battery with stored chemical energy discharging IS entropy...from ordered to disordered.


You get stuck on WORDS and lose track of the IDEAS that they describe.

HOW many DIFFERENT ways can I explain it to you.

You KEEP going off on tangents.

Forget entropy...OK...stick to the point...you claimed batteries are/will be more efficient...than oil.

I showed you...you're wrong.


One last time...

Oil is the suns energy converted to chemical energy...agreed?

A battery is a man made...artificial holder of chemical energy...agreed?

Lets say you put a solar cell under the sun...you'll get whatever output the sun emits.

Your battery in comparison would be like building a bright light, as bright as the sun...this light is putting out the same energy onto a solar cell in a garage as the one under direct sunlight. So you have 2 solar panels...one under direct sunlight and the other in a garage being lit by an artificial light...getting the same amount of energy.

Which is more ENERGY efficient?

The one that is using sunlight. The sun is providing the energy, not a power plant

Oil is also more efficient because it is direct "saved" sunlight. And not a man made container that needs to be FILLED with energy...artificial sunlight...to work.

You're not impressing me with degrees...Tal supposedly has three.

You're also not impressing me with your reasoning skills.

I'm thinking you're just f@cking with me...you keep sucking me in.

Someone else's turn...to be the fool...or teach an idiot.