These facts have not been 'debunked' as you put it.

I won't post anything further on Obama. You can lead a horse to water as the saying goes.

Also, the name calling did not come from me. I don't appreciate that association.

Time will tell anyway. Unfortunately for most of us, we may have to suffer for other folks unwillingness to .... nevermind. Not worth the next round of insults that will surely come from this Political thread sorry to say.