Kahuna I agree with you totally. I am a life long independent who voted for Reagan twice and Nixon twice,now that I am voting for Obama my best friend of nearly 50 years says that I am a :edit: Liberal Seems if you vote democrat that you are disloyal against our troops and for our common enemies. He is still my best friend even though I told him that Bush cheney, and dumbsfeld should be given a fair trial and excuted in the morning. There were no Al-Qaeda in Iraq there were no terrorist training camps in Iraq the camps were in Afghanistan and were being trained by the Taliban and last but not least Osama Bin laden was hiding in a cave in Afghanistan. Whoever wins this election I can live with can't say that about the last two elections