Over the telephone about eleven years ago. All I had to do was mail them a certified copy of my birth certificate which they returned to me. Pre digital world. I ended up speaking to two different ladies, both knowledgable and pleasant.
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"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato
“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” Thomas Paine
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