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Old 05-24-2018, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa View Post
.... Gun bans is not the answer.
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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa View Post
The emphasis needs to be on excluding the potential killers from schools. Hardened targets, with armed guards and effective security, is a first step. More emphasis on mental health observation of our adolescent population is another.

Work on mental health for adolescents, who often feel isolated, bullied, despondent, forlorn, or abandoned....

Kids often know which of their schoolmates are in need of attention. Create an environment in which they feel comfortable in reporting these situations.

In the meantime, the immediate answer is to establish full security at the school buildings.
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Schools with spread out campuses and buildings, characteristic of universities, will require a different approach. As it has been repeatedly demonstrated, school shooters tend to take their own lives as soon as confronted by armed opposition....
After the initial post, after excluding all the 'nattering,' as described by one poster, after reading "Gun bans is not the answer," my question to the OP is "Well, it appears that gun bans are not the solution, then what are the answers?"

From the OP's next post, more questions: How viable is the suggestion of yet more mental health counseling, which is already prevalent in schools and does not necessarily pick up on who might be a potential shooter? And how does one create an atmosphere in schools of getting adolescents to squeal on other adolescents (even those whom they might hear about planning a shooting)? And how are we to address the situation of the father who not only provided the guns to his son (without realizing it, of course) but actually makes excuses for him? What of the suggestion to make the father bear responsibility for this horror?

And finally, "In the meantime, the immediate answer is to establish full security at the school buildings." Especially since the OP has worked in hostage negotiations, perhaps he can suggest how to implement this? I could be wrong, but I would think the problem of hostages comes after the fact, not before, in contrast with school or other mass shootings. And how does it help the situation to cite a large spread-out campus being problematic and so forth and not offering anything remotely addressing the problem?

I am not in agreement or disagreement, and I don't see that gun ban on one extreme or arming yet more personnel, including teachers, in schools the other extreme. These questions need answers for us to understand better what can be done in a realistic way. Can the OP provide cogent, sensible, practical ideas about how viably this can be dealt with? Or perhaps refer us to a source where these questions can be answered? I could never have made this post because, honestly, I have more questions than answers!

Also, while a solution must be found, who is going to pay for this? I constantly hear people griping and whining about having to pay taxes....