[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Oh my! I see here that the TOTV Kangaroo Court is in session.

krash, I also see you joined in 2007, which is the same year I did. If you read TOTV on a regular basis, you have probably observed how predictable it is that someone who says something considered "negative" about TV -- in any way, at all -- comes under an almost immediate personal attack. krash, may I present your defense, pro bono.

(At this point. Boomer gets up and walks over to address the jury.)

"Ladies and Gentleman of the TOTV Jury, I am asking you to think a little further about what has been reported about the mess revealed in a 2007 build.

Let's look at a little TV history: If you will recall, 2007 was the height of the bubble. (2007 was the year I was in TV, for the first time. That was when a sales rep in an open house in Amelia told us we had to BUY NOW or we would be sooooooo sorry.)

In 2007 TV could not build houses fast enough. Retirees coming in had been able to sell their houses, in other places, in record time, for record prices, and were coming on down, cash-in-hand.

In fact, 2007 was just at the tail end of the days when buyers were being given a half hour to make up their minds -- or it was on to the next person on the list. (I think it was a half hour -- might have been a little longer, but not much.)

TVers who wanted to change houses could sell fast, too. Sometimes on Sundays, people would peek in at new builds to try to see if they wanted to get on the hot list.

2007 was a building frenzy. Just imagine the pressure those contractors and crews were under. Maybe there were even extra contractors being brought in.

If you really think about it, there most certainly could have been a few houses where things like our OP has described -- in detail -- happened.

(If I may digress:

I have a memory of watching bricklayers working on a house up north. Those guys did not know that I could read what some of them were writing, in a little mortar, underneath those bricks -- writing things about their buddies who were working close to them -- and making sure it was seen by said buddy. That was all being done in innocent fun -- hurt nothing -- but just imagine when the archeologists unearth that house. Yeah. I know. Not the same as garbage, but interesting to know about -- to me anyway.)

My point is that I think our OP is telling the truth. It is an incident trapped in time. That does not mean it happened on every house.

I hope the TOTV Jury will reconsider. There was no need to try and convict. I think reasonable doubt should be in play here. How can there be a conviction that is not beyond reasonable doubt?"


Addendum: We eventually bought a house. 7 years later than 2007.

Thanks for the history.
I believe OP but it was 11 years ago. Does it really have anything to do with today's builders?