I think they have been working with Mr. Obama a long time, he was not at all impressive off script earlier and is coming along nicely. Sarah may do just as well with as much time. But, Bright, if you read my earlier posts on different threads, I did indicate the debate Thursday night will tell me a lot. She may not be the candidate I want at all but also as I stated in an earlier post, the hatefulness and ugliness directed toward her is amazing. I would like to watch the debate with as open mind as possible because Joe could be my candidate. I also indicated earlier, my husband and I can't afford to live in retirement and fund Mr. Obama's endless projects. I don't think many people living in retirement can but soon it will be over and the real mess will be upon us.