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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore
I'll just keep saying it, the problem with undocumented workers taking jobs away from documented workers/citizens...can be substantially reduced pretty easily.
Simply start throwing the book...at those people who hire them. 
Put enough business owners and high-level exec's in jail, then sit back and see how darned fast a better effort is made...in who is employed.
Of course, there will be the inevitable whining and screeching from seeing prices significantly rise on a plethora of products and services...but that's fine with me too. 
The nasty little truth is, that we as a country are also to blame because of the pressure we put on companies...to keep their prices low.
Then the 'law of unintended consequences'...starts to kick in.
When the prices for domestically produced products becomes too high, then corporations who are driven by shareholders who want their returns maximized and right now, will simply go wherever they need to reduce their overhead costs...with labor usually being at the top.  |
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123
Kinda hard to put voting aside, but... Why would a citizen want to work 40 hours per week for minimum wage when they can make more money on welfare? And, why would an employer want to pay minimum wage and comply with all of the labor laws, including payroll taxes, unemployment taxes, workers comp, sick leave, safety rules, and other mandated benefits, when they can hire someone and pay them in cash? There are a lot of workers who won't even work unless you pay them in cash. And, some people actually want to pass a $15 minimum wage which, if enforced, would put thousands of small businesses out of business. There are some small business owners who don't even make $15 per hour.
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Yes, there are causes for and consequences (intended or not) of uncontrolled immigration. Where discussion surrounds low pay for physical labor, there is no proof offered that controlled immigration does not fill those roles. I have attempted to strip away the rhetoric so that we can look at, if there is, any potential benefits for uncontrolled versus controlled immigration at the most basic level. Should there be no fundamental benefit of uncontrolled over controlled immigration, then why the support for uncontrolled immigration? I have yet to see such an example or set of examples to support the position.
I would therefore submit that there is no benefit to uncontrolled immigration that would outweigh the need to change the current immigration laws, and restrict access to those who are following the path of controlled immigration.