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Originally Posted by Trayderjoe
Unfortunately this, IMHO, is muddying the waters. The predominant issue at hand is the number of uncontrolled immigrants currently attempting to enter the country. This is not to say that there isn't a concern by some regarding all immigrants who are not here legally.
I am still waiting to hear what other types of immigration there are besides controlled and uncontrolled that was previously alluded.
Unfortunately moving forward to solve the issue may be a hope and never a reality. Statistics are challenged when they don't meet an agenda, people are grouped based upon their position about people who come here illegally. Policies and practices regarding uncontrolled immigration that were practiced on BOTH sides of the aisle are convienently ignored by one side as it doesn't fit an agenda. HELLO, all citizens of the US should be upset and working toward a common goal. How will this ever happen when people, even on this discussion board, insist on their agenda and not a common beneficial endpoint?
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Stop moving the goalposts. This isn't about "controlled vs. uncontrolled" immigration. It's about "badly controlled vs. better controlled" immigration. Immigration is controlled in this country. But OBVIOUSLY the system isn't working, or we wouldn't have the issues we see today. The current incarnation of "controlled immigration" is BROKEN. It needs to be fixed. That doesn't mean removing controls. It means getting rid of what doesn't work, and replacing it with what does work. Or adding to something that is inadequate, but would be of superior and efficient quality if something was added to it. Make what we have better. More for its own sake is not equal to better.
More wall doesn't equal superior control. Kicking them ALL out doesn't equal superior control. Forbidding them from ALL entering doesn't equal superior control. Taking what one small faction of people think, based on something they know nothing about and have no personal experience of, and implementing laws based on that little tidbit of non-information and faulty data, does not equal superior control.
What DOES equal superior control, is implementing modern technological advances to border control facilities. It is adding more staff to the border patrol. It is adding more gates to the border patrol. It is repairing any gates, fencing, walls, or other barriers, that are in need of repair. It is providing more efficient and humane methodology to the asylum and refugee programs already in place. It is adding multitudes of trained immigrations professionals, who can help get some of these folks, who have been here 20 years and have been TRYING to legally gain citizenship even before their visas expired.
There are hundreds of thousands of immigrants who are "in process" in this country, who have been "in process" for over a decade. There is no excuse for that. They should have either been moved along the path to citizenship, or returned to their countries of origin by now.
End the logjam.