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Originally Posted by redwitch
Gee, I only found it interesting that McCain would have an ad tying Obama to Ayers and then tell his supporters that Obama is a good man and America has nothing to fear if he wins the presidency. Seems like a complete dichotomy to me.
As to his radical ties, I guess they really don't bother me all that much because if you look into my past and the past of most people who were in their late teens and early 20s in the 60s and 70s, you'd find many radical ties. That didn't mean we were radicals, it simply meant we knew many and were friends with them. Sometimes because they had the best dope, sometimes because they were the most interesting people, sometimes because we genuinely liked them.
Obama was raised by a mother and grandparents who were pretty much free thinkers. That pretty much guaranteed that he would be raised around radicals. So, this tie is, to me, tenuous at best.
I do have issues with Obama. I don't like how he came out of left field to run for the presidency. I don't like the fact that he is part of the Chicago political machine. I'm liberal, but that doesn't mean I believe that every liberal cause should be followed. I'm not convinced that Obama feels as I do.
All of that being said, if you like and respect McCain and believe him much of the time, then the radical issue should be tossed to the side, just as the Muslim issue seems to have finally died down. It was McCain who said Americans had nothing to fear from Obama as president after some of his supporters were screaming that Obama would bring socialism, Communism and radicalism to the White House if he became president. If McCain with his all of his resources says the man is genuine, maybe we should believe that he is and start looking at the issues, not the fears.
It really would be nice if a person's vote was based on what we felt the man could or could not do for the US and Americans in today's climate rather than worrying about ghosts. Personally, I want a President who is strong enough and savvy enough to be able to stand up to Congress and say the pork has got to stop; who understands that many Americans do need help but don't want a free ride, just a way to survive in today's world; who won't just start shooting from the hip but will actually do what is necessary to keep us out of unnecessary wars but be willing to stand up and fight if needed.
Yes, I'm leaning towards Obama but I truly haven't made up my mind. There are issues in my mind that haven't been resolved. For now, I know I'm not convinced that I want McCain. We still have a few weeks to see what both of these men do and say. Let's hope one of them shows some true Presidential qualities soon -- not just rhetoric.
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1. As I tried to say in my other post....Sen McCain has been calling out Sen Obama for ties to folks who were or are unrepented radicals who engaged in terrorist acts. THIS IS TO POINT OUT HIS IDEALOGY WHICH IS RADICAL. I do not recall ANY campaigner saying anything personal about Sen Obama and thus Sen McCain just wanted to temper the crowd, which I cannot for the life of me understand why he is not applauded for that. He has never called Sen Obama a terrorist.....he has never said anything except ABOUT HIS IDEALOGY WHICH IS RADICAL.
And by the way, you and your friends DID NOT BOMB OR KILL ANYONE and remain unapologetic about it or say you would do it again. THAT is a huge difference dont you think ?
2. Now listen....we are talking about his radical ties SIMPLY TO POINT OUT HIS RADICAL SOCIALIST IDEALOGY. I do look at the issues....and Sen Obama is a RADICAL LEFT WING socialist. PERIOD. That means that any Supreme Court Justices he appoints will be of that mold.....that means that he, Biden, Pelosi and Reid will be our leaders for at least two years. This country has never been that far left. To discuss issues you have got to know how folks act when it comes to a vote or an appointment. Sen McCain has a record to look at and make your own judgement...Sen Obama does not thus you need to look at his training and who he surrounded himself with to get some idea....and that equals radical left wingers. Now, that does not mean he is a bad man...I, nor anyone on here to my knowledge or anyone on the campaign trail has attacked Sen Obama PERSONALLY.
I hope this makes sense. You keep saying how Sen McCain said he was good guy or something. He simply did not go after him personally...he simply disagrees totally with his ideals and by pointing out his associations with left wing radicals that should do it but nobody wants to listen. It seems it is hate mongering or racist or something...and that is really %^&&*(&^ me off !!!