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Old 07-02-2019, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by fw102807 View Post
The sky is not always blue, you do not need to stay fat, green eyed people can be lazy, etc. Facts can be based on things that are often fluid. Facts are not absolute truths. In some cases they are not true at all. I do not believe you can rigidly accept all facts as true just because you think the source is credible because that is then opinion. I am not against facts I am against those who belittle others for not believing THEIR facts.
Learn words. I AM..is a very specific condition. It means "what is happening at this very moment, to me, exclusively." I am - my state of existence in the current moment - fat.

Now, if I said "I am always fat" you'd have a point. But I didn't say that. And so your point on that statement is moot, and actually proves the difference between fact and opinion, or fact and lie.

Five years from now, I will be able to look back on this moment and say, "On July 2, 2019 at 8:38 AM EST, I was fat." And that fact would still be factual, and absolute truth. Even if I lose 20 pounds between now and then, that fact is not changeable.

With my statement of "green eyed people are always lazy" - the operative word there is always. Green eyed people are not ALWAYS lazy. They are no more or less often lazy than blue-eyed people.

At the moment I was looking up at the sky, it was blue. At that moment, the existence of the blue sky was factual. In 20 years when meteorologists look back on that moment in that specific location on the planet, and check their records, they will be able to tell you, without any doubt or hesitation, that the sky was, in fact, blue at that moment in that location. It is a fact, it was a fact, it will be a fact, and that fact will never change EVEN IF TOMORROW THE SKY TURNS PURPLE.

Facts are facts. Everything else is opinion, rhetoric, deceit, lie, hyperbole, red herrings, straw men, illusion, misinformation, misunderstanding, ignorance, or fiction (choose any one, or any combination).