[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I agree totally.

As one who has been openly criticized for supplying links to support my opinion and presentation of "facts", and made fun of for asking for such credible basis, I can say I offer no apology.

To have civil discourse or learn from others, you must have that.

Seems to me it used to be the accepted practice on this forum until recently, and I have often...very often....echoed how much I learned from posting on this forum in the past and reading others.

Not so much any more as you can see.....some posters openly have disdain for facts.......and say so, which to me is incredible and screams justification for "shredding" what is true.

i believe in the real world, we always have known what is a fact and what is not...what is true and what is not.

Key is to accept it. Circular reasoning seems to abound.

Ditto.