I am either the one totally confused or something.

Simply stated as I can: Sen McCain's campaign is trying to point out the radical element that is in Sen Obama's background. He is not talking about those who endorsed him...he is simply pointing out that HIS IDEALOGY is steeped in radical left wing politics.

Why is this important ? Because Sen McCain has a visible record of well over 25 years of associations, friends, enemies, voting records, appearances...whatever you want. Sen Obama has NONE. There fore, it is important to understand the idealogy that drives Sen Obama since we do not that years and years of visibility.

That is what is being stated.

Now, you folks and others are making it something else. You are bringing up all these names as folks who endorse Sen McCain...well, now if that works....Farrakhan endorses Sen Obama and refers to him as the messiah. The American Communist Party endorses very strongly Sen Obama.

To KAHUANA....I respectfully understand your point about the "tit for tat" thing. However as one who began threads 6 weeks ago on this subject, I respectfully disagree with you. Not JUST Sen Obama's associates, but CERTAINLY ALL OF HIS ASSOCIATES AND TRAINING are issues to be discussed since he HAS NO RECORD OF ANYTHING. If a candidate had the same associations with Ayers as Obama does AND had a visible public record for 20 years, then that association is weighed against the record and thus would probably be less important. That is my point and I am not saying any of this because I am just throwing names around.

Sen Obama is a man we know nothing about except for his political speeches and appearances and we all spend hours on here saying how the speeched and politics mean nothing/./.that it is what they do that counts...well he has done NOTHING BUT RUN FOR OFFICE. I also think a 20 year association with Rev Wright is important. Sen McCain is trying to honor something he said during the primaries about not bringing it up but IT IS RELATIVE.

How you can advise electing a President with no voting record.....nothing to base a decision on except for speeches and ads (which on here I remind you we make fun of for both parties) and want to ignore 20 years attending a church of hate for a certain race...and even calling that Pastor his mentor and advisor....his association with a man who killed and maimed people and has said recently he does not regret and will do it again is simply beyond any logic. You are basing your decisions on nothing but political speeches or simply wanting a change for change sake irregardless of what you get !