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Originally Posted by redwitch
I understand efrahin's arguments about racism. I don't agree with the theory but I understand it and I'm sure that it is true for some. I once called one member here a bigot for his non-stop tirade about Obama being a closet Muslim. That, to me, was and is true. If you stereotype all members of the Islam faith with the fanatic brush, you are a bigot in my mind. The vast majority of Muslims are good, kind, wonderful people. Like any religion, it is the extremists who make the news.
While it is true that no one on the Republican campaign (that I know of) directly said that Obama was a Muslim, it was said and implied by several conservatives both in print and on television (we'll ignore the internet on this one) -- the misspeaking by Obama of 57 states; the emphasis on his middle name; the fact he went to a Muslim school as a child; his father's and stepfather's history. That tactic failed and now it is the radical tar being applied.
You keep giving McCain credit for calming the crowd down when they were shouting "kill him" about Obama. If the Republicans and conservatives hadn't started the scare tactics of Obama being a Muslim and a radical, there would have been no need to calm the mob. McCain continues to attack the radical issue in his ads but says Americans have nothing to fear if Obama becomes president. Sorry, but that speaks of hipocrisy at its best.
Bucco, you get upset that people don't defend McCain and the attacks on him. What have been the attacks on him? That he was a lousy pilot? He was. That he speaks out of both sides of his mouth? He does -- he's a politician, it's part of the job description. That he has a temper? He does. That he's not the sharpest tack in the package? He's not -- graduating 2d from last from Annapolis doesn't say a lot.
So far, I haven't seen an Obama ad attacking McCain. I've seen ads attacking some of McCain's "solutions." I've seen ads approved by Obama attacking some of McCain's policy stances. But I have not seen a single ad directly attacking McCain. I wish I could say the same of McCain's ads. As long as McCain plays the radical card and then tells supporters that Obama is a good man and there is nothing to fear if Obama becomes President, I'll be wondering what the truth is -- is the radical background an issue and will Obama bring us to the brink of (or over) socialism or is it all campaign scare tactics that mean nothing?
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Redwitch...I agree with absolutely not one thing in your post, but I agree you have the right to feel anyway you want. Your post reads like a Democratic talking point one after the other. If you have not seen the attack ads by Obama...please take a look at factcheck (pretty evenly distributed by the two but you will find the LIES by both parties). If you think that anyone of any credence at all has called Sen Obama a muslim, I would love to hear who they are because it did not happen, HOWEVER, if you think that folks are calling Sen McCain racist for just about anything, that IS A FACT. But calling him that is not the same as being that.
The "radical card" as you call it, in Sen Obama's case is extremely valid...VERY MUCH SO. I wont go into it anymore...have done that for about 6 weeks and nobody has ONCE ever found fault with my facts, simply shrugged them off and say they are not important.
This paragraph of yours below...
"Bucco, you get upset that people don't defend McCain and the attacks on him. What have been the attacks on him? That he was a lousy pilot? He was. That he speaks out of both sides of his mouth? He does -- he's a politician, it's part of the job description. That he has a temper? He does. That he's not the sharpest tack in the package? He's not -- graduating 2d from last from Annapolis doesn't say a lot."
It is simply amazing to me that you would even attempt to put this into the same catagory as what we KNOW about Sen Obama....his TWENTY YEAR ASSOCIATION WITH REV WRIGHT....his associations with radicals and radical thinkers.
I am tired of this honestly and with respect. It just seems ok for people to make the simplest statements of no consequence (Pilots, Palin's family, etc), and the same folks to yell racism and hate on a crtique of their candidate instead of addressing it, to have Jessie Jackson's son say he is acting too white....and yet the same people say that the name calling is coming from Sen McCain.
You know I am not a McCain supporter in any way....I simply oppose the bashing of him without even considering anything at all negative about Sen Obama. It is as if he has some kind of halo over his head and if you hurt him, his staff will immediately call you racist, a hate mongerer, or being like George Wallace. I got news for you...the only mention of race comes from his supporters !!!!!!!!!!!!
Look...it appears he will be elected. I wish him well as he will be MY president as well. I pretty much know the direction it will go...his ENTIRE history, NOT HIS WORDS THE LAST FEW MONTHS....will show youthat direction.
I cannot tell you how much I sincerely hope I am wrong...I pray that I am not, but in my heart I KNOW I am not but it is too late...he has mesmerized so many folks and now even with the NATIONWIDE fraud going on with all the registration, even that is ok and no problem with americans. WOW...Sen McCain, whether right or wrong, leaves the campaign trail for one day early and it is headlines and he is scathed....we allow thousands and thousands of folks to register very blantanly with fraud and you would be hard stretched to find anyone to critique that.
To the following in your post...
"While it is true that no one on the Republican campaign (that I know of) directly said that Obama was a Muslim, it was said and implied by several conservatives both in print and on television (we'll ignore the internet on this one) -- the misspeaking by Obama of 57 states; the emphasis on his middle name; the fact he went to a Muslim school as a child; his father's and stepfather's history. That tactic failed and now it is the radical tar being applied."
I just refer you to the literally THOUSANDS of accusations about Gov Palin that were LIES and untrue but they seem to be acceptable. Why you bring this up I dont understand....geez, there have been attacks on McCain and his wife and their adopted children. To my knowledge noone nowhere has attacked the Obama family !!!
Redwitch..nothing personal I hope...I am giving up. Those who are swooning will not listen and are just looking to spalsh racism all over Sen McCain...I find that insulting to be honest and I am not talking about you at all. Pointing out idealogy of a candidate should not be a call to accuse the person who brings it up as a racist or hate mongerer...that racism is coming from somewhere else but you dont see it !~