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Originally Posted by Jazuela
No need to demonize anyone cgilcreast. But it is still important for "people who don't live in poverty" to stop saying "just get a better job." Not everyone has that opportunity. Not everyone can. Even if you pulled yourself up by your bootstraps and sold widgets door to door until you scraped up enough money for your first widget store - that doesn't mean everyone can do that. Some people are just flat out not capable of it. Has nothing to do with laziness (though sure there are plenty of lazy people - including those who have inherited daddy's money and don't HAVE to work for a living).
And that's not even just retail. How much do you think the average produce-farm worker gets paid per hour? Do you think if they COULD do better, they probably would? If you think that's someone being lazy, I challenge you to try working for one some time. Spend 7 hours a day starting at 4 in the morning, hunched over on your knees pulling up cabbages.
Meanwhile, all those wealthier people get their services, and produce, and cereal, and underwear from - someone. Someone has to do all those low-paying jobs, because all those people who can afford to patronize those stores and companies, need someone to actually perform the tasks those people are paying for.
When you say "if you don't like a low paying job, get a better one" - well if everyone followed that advice, all of those places you spend your money at - will close. They would have no employees left to do all those things that customers need done.
So basically that kind of attitude is shooting yourself in the foot. You rely on low-paying low-skilled workers, whether you want to admit it or prefer to pretend it's not a HUGE part of your life.
The Villages is crawling through Central Florida at a pretty quick rate. And you're not seeing a whole lot of people moving to Central Florida in the hopes of getting a swanky gig at the local Target.
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I had to respond to this, as much as I was trying to just read this thread and laugh. A few notes:
1. I think many of us here, including myself, came from Poverty. I left home with $200 in my pocket in 1981 and now most would consider me rich (I have 2 homes in TV, both currently rentals until I move in a few years).
2. Since many of us came from poverty and are now not in poverty, we have the opinion you can get out of it if you want to. Let me say IT IS NOT EVEN THAT HARD! There are jobs going unfilled everywhere right now that pay great wages - maybe not around TV but around the country. If you have not noticed there is a help wanted banner in front of every business right now.
3. We have all seen that most are in poverty because of bad choices - they get pregnant at 19, before they are married. They do not get educated, they won't move to get a better life, they do drugs, they have 3 baby dadies for 3 kids, they don't show up for work. They don't learn english. they are lazy. You get the point.
4. Simple economics will fix this and is fixing it around the country. I saw a target DC with a sign saying they were paying $19 an hour for workers(in Wisconsin). Around TV, wages will increase to bring in workers, and we will all pay more. I know I am paying more for lawn service, house cleaners, and golf cart repair than 5-6 years ago, and this is also why rents go up every year. There was a post contrasting 20 years ago with today- the point being there are 10s of thousands of jobs now that were not here 20 years ago - they people came to fill them. BTW - I notice that a lot of the workers in the new build areas down south are driving $60,000 trucks - they are obviously making a nice wage.
The article is a hit piece on TV, plain and simple. Stupid Lies mostly. Most of us moved or are moving to TV because the stupid way things up north are run with high taxes and too much regulation, along with huge wealth transfers to those who won't work. Even with the Sumter county tax increase the area has a very low cost of living and low taxes. Yes, prices will rise, but they are everywhere. This crap about less than 2% inflation is bull, but that is for another post.
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