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Originally Posted by Bucco
Basically, you lay the blame for whatever regarding healthcare. With a blanket, and believe me, taxes are not the answers, even if your statement was true.
With very little research, I offer the following and it is easy to research, but more on that later
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"Research shows that illegal immigrants increase the size of the U.S. economy/contribute to economic growth, enhance the welfare of natives, contribute more in tax revenue than they collect, reduce American firms' incentives to offshore jobs and import foreign-produced goods, and benefit consumers by reducing the prices of goods and services.[2][3][4][5] Economists estimate that legalization of the illegal immigrant population would increase the immigrants' earnings and consumption considerably, and increase U.S. gross domestic product.[6][7][8][9] There is scholarly consensus that illegal immigrants commit less crime than natives.[10] Sanctuary cities—which adopt policies designed to avoid prosecuting people solely for being in the country illegally—have no statistically meaningful impact on crime, and may reduce the crime rate.[11][12] Research suggests that immigration enforcement has no impact on crime rates.[13][14][11]"
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That responds to your blanket blaming of immigrants, but I agree that our immigration needs work, but talking is not something we do any longer
Healthcare can be resolved, but we keep being promised alternatives but never see them.. We HAD a plan that nobody will disagree needed work, and instead of resolving the issue, we are striving to dismay it, and it seems resolvable if we really cared.
I was shocked in reading the thread on "Medicare part D" and wonder why we, the voters don't demand answers. Seems to me that the situation described there is resolvable by elected officials of any party, and hopefully by both.
We talk in such generalities, demand no consequences for those responsible for making the laws. We don't even demand they talk.
I suggest it is all fixable, IF anyone wants to.
I was vocal and loud in my opposition to Obamacare, but I naively believed those who said it would be adjusted, etc and they were not telling the truth.
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So you found a "study" that claims how wonderful things are with border crashers. Here's another.
New FAIR Study: Illegal Immigration Costs $116 billion Annually
September 27, 2017
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IRLI Staff
Brunt of Costs Fall on State and Local Taxpayers
(Washington, D.C.) - Illegal immigration to the U.S. costs federal, state and local taxpayers a staggering net cost of $116 billion a year - an increase of some $16 billion compared to previous estimates - according to a new study released by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). The study is the most comprehensive to date on the cost to federal, state and local taxpayers of the nation's 12.5 million illegal immigrants and their 4.2 million citizen children.
Costs Soar
The report, “The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers,” examines the cost of illegal immigration through a detailed analysis of federal, state and local programs that are available to the nation’s illegal immigrant population, their U.S.-born children, or accessed via fraud. The study tallies the impact on education, medical, justice/enforcement, welfare and other government programs. The report notes that the $116 billion cost of illegal immigration falls on state and local taxpayers disproportionately – by a ratio of roughly 2 to 1 – with state and local expenditures totaling $88.9 billion and Federal expenditures totaling $45.8 billion, with only approximately $19 billion recouped in taxes.
Taxes Paid Inadequate
The staggering total costs of illegal immigrants and their children outweigh the taxes paid to federal and state governments by a ratio of roughly 7 to 1, with costs at nearly $135 billion compared to tax revenues at nearly $19 billion.
All told, the nearly $135 billion paid out by federal and state and local taxpayers to cover the cost of the presence of 12.5 million illegal aliens and their 4.2 million citizen children amounts to approximately $8,075 per illegal alien and citizen child prior to taxes paid, or $6,940 per person after taxes are paid.
On the federal level, medical ($17.14 billion) is by far the highest cost, with law enforcement coming second ($13.15 billion) and general government services ($8 billion) third.
At the state and local level, education ($44.4 billion) was by far the largest expense, followed by general public services ($18.5 billion) and medical ($12.1 billion).
The study also includes cost and tax revenue estimates per state. The top three states based on total cost to state taxpayers for illegal immigrants and their children: California ($23 billion); Texas ($10.9 billion), and New York ($7.5 billion).
I do not believe that any countries that have free health care extend coverage to non citizens. They don't have the economic stress we have from porous borders.