Marxism - In application, this principle means that the present organization of society must be destroyed (even through violent revolution, if necessary, because only through such destruction can a better political, economic, and social organization be achieved. To establish this new format of society, working men (the proletariat) must be organized and take up the struggle against the capitalists who defraud them. Thus the actors in this drama are the social classes -- the proletariat is arrayed against capitalism. This struggle, according to Marx and Engels, will end in victory for the proletariat, that is, in the triumph of universal Socialism.

http://www.radicalacademy.com/philmarx.htm

No links from this point on....just me thinking out loud.

It is surprising that so many educated people seem to deny Obama's ideology is based on moving America toward socialism and beyond. Some may argue we are already there. It doesn't matter what source you give attribution to, what link you post or google....every definition of Marxism, socialism and communism falls within the ideology expressed by Obama. Spreading the wealth, redistribution of wealth, class warfare that pits the middle and lower classes against capitalists (this is a new extension of the Proletariat as earlier failures were attributed to the non-inclusion of the middle class), and punishing capitalists through taxation are all part of the Marxist mantra. To be fair, he advocates a "soft" Marxism as opposed to William Ayers and other "friends" who believed it had to be accomplished by violence. Marx envisioned socialism and eventually communism as a worldwide political-economic system....just like Obama's friend George Soros. It gives new meaning to Obama's campaign excursions to Europe if you look at it from that perspective.

I said Obama advocates at this point in time, "soft" Marxism. My concerns are some overtones that suggest a more sinister agenda. The Fairness Doctrine whereby Democratic liberals want to silence conservative talk shows, flies directly in the face of freedom of speech. They have already tried once recently. The other day, I heard a Nevada democrat say they were going to resurrect it when Obama gets in and they have control of Congress. My God, isn't anyone else alarmed? It reeks of totalitarianism. It flies in the face of the First Amendment. Obama has already started to attack talk show hosts with Conservative views.

Obama's Global Poverty Act that would provide a tax on America to fight global poverty sounds good. Did you read the part where that bastion of honor and integrity, the United Nations is going to set the tax rate and control distribution. Universal Socialism? Score another round for Karl.

How about another Obama supported initiative? He is for open union elections. Union leaders say they just want the right to have open elections and anyone who wants to vote secretly would be afforded that opportunity. What a misrepresentation, as if unions were above intimidating and seeking retribution against those that opted to vote secretly. If you disagree, you don't know how unions work. Where is Jimmy Hoffa? This certainly would feed the Marxist tenet that working men need to be organized. It would also be beneficial in securing the vote for Marxists and help the proletariat rise against the capitalists.

It is one thing to acknowledge and admit that Obama is influenced by Marxist ideologies and he intends to bring them into the nation's highest office. It is quite another to deny what he is and support him as a stealth candidate. As Bucco has pointed out for a long time, his influences are a litany of radical leftists and communists. Why wouldn't Obama acknowledge that he is running on a socialist platform and is influenced by the principles of Marxism. If the United States is ready for that.....so be it. What part of Marxism doesn't Obama agree with in any of his policies?

It is not my intention to incite political passions with this post. I'm here because I enjoy the interaction and exchange of ideas. The therapeutic benefit is a bonus. I sincerely would like to hear the defense of Obama and hope I can learn something that will put my points into perspective and make me more at ease with his candidacy. I know I've used terms that are alarming but I believe they need to be discussed and not treated as a "do not enter" zone.

Wait...who's that knocking on my door?