Yes, Hillary was a student of Saul Alinsky, and the Clinton's worried so much about that they had her papers at college supressed ! Did not make that up...you can check it easily on google...common knowledge now.

Having said that, not only was Sen Obama a student of his philosophy, he used it in community organizing and has perfected it, and has used it in the election to a T !!!

He IS a marxist and once elected will try even less to hide it, and he has the entire field in front of him with Pelosi and Reid....NOTHING whatsover to even slow down anything he wants to do.

He scares me also, and many folks if not all , think I am some kind of nut case for staying after this. You have obviously done reading other than where the campaign sends you and know of what I speak.

Consider....a man in his mid 40's

....Attended a church for 20 years where the pastor preached hate for whites and sometimes, depending on the situation, for this country. Sen Obama called him his "mentor" and like an uncle. Then when confronted with the tapes, etc. it appears that Rev Wright preached hate ONLY when Sen Obama was not in church...and kept this feelings to himself and never gave it away to Sen Obama. We bought it.

....Here is a man who studied AND PRACTICED Saul Alinsky's methods. The Clintons thought even studying this was serious after they were elected and had it covered up. It is ok with us.

....Here is man, who served on boards with a man who killed other americans, albeit during a rough time, but NEVER regretted it and said he would do it again. He also launched his political career in his living room. These that I mention are ALL FACTS...not just mud slinging. We are ok with that.

....This is a man who is considered by unbiased sources to be the single most liberal senator we have...even more far left than an avowed communist. We are ok with that also.

....This is man whose own autobiography is filled with blanks and actual changes from the first to the second. We dont care about that.

....This is a man who has NEVER been in charge of one single thing in his lifetime. We dont care.

....This is a senator who before the Iowa caucas said he would strip our military...said he would STOP much of our missle systems, and NOW facing election says he will build a military for the 21 st century. We dont question it..we dont care.

....This is a man who lied to all of us about campaign financing and grinned when he said he "had changed his mind"....We dont seem to care.

There are not many folks in this country that has such a "dosier", and I left out some of his great quotes in his own autobiography about how he was in awe of Frank Davis as a young man. Yes, that Frank Davis of communism fame. This is simply scratching the surface, but we want change so much we are going to make this same guy the President of the United States, give him a liberal Democratic senate and let him go.

Folks on here think I overreact and am some kind of a nutcase...well, if you knew me, you would find I am neither, but a student of politics and history and one who started this journey WANTING TO SUPPORT OBAMA and thus read as much as I could. The more I read the more I thought he could never be elected in the USA (as the Clintons said), NOT BECAUSE OF RACE...NOT BECAUSE OF HIS HERITAGE...simply because of his totally radical behavior and record. The more I read the more I thought he would not even get reeclected in Ill, but I thought he might stay around in the senate a bit so my thought was that when people realize...but he didnt take that risk, he ran immediatley for President.

I dont say things I cannot back up...I dont make things up...all of this is fact and can be easily be verified.

I am afraid also, Sally Jo.....