Honestly, I dont know too much about this, as the associations that concern me about Sen Obama are long and deep seeded in idealogy.

But if this is important to you, have a go.....I think both sides are way out of line on this. Sen Obama's ties are a bit hazy.....Sen McCain has no personal ties..simply some funding from one organization to another and there is some question on the "bad guy" rap that Khalidi has.

All in all, NOTHING compares with a lifetime of associations of a personal and idealogical nature. I know you dont get it or dont care and that is your right. I have been very clear on this board from the beginning...I am not a supporter of Sen McCain...and you would be hard pressed to see many posts of me SUPPORTING HIM.......I DO KNOW that Sen Obama has a very very shadowy past, very shadowy associatons, very CLEAR training in marxism and socialism and that scares me !

Please read all that I have typed in this thread alone and tell me one thing that is not true !!! I keep challenging and may regret doing that so openly, but I feel very confident that what I have learned about Sen Obama from study and NOT SPIN is true