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Originally Posted by blueash
Let's start by getting his name right. It is Raoult not Faoult. And I have not criticized anything about his being in the trenches. Although I am not really sure he is in the trenches or not. I suspect he is in his office while those he employs are in the trenches. Do you want to know that he has been found to have submitted false data for publication? Do you know that he was banned from publishing for a period because of his sloppy work?
Chloroquine genius Didier Raoult to save the world from COVID-19 – For Better Science
I don't know how true all these allegations are, but there sure is a lot of smoke.
On the other hand he is one of the most recognized and honored persons in his field in Europe. He or his institution has published 2300 papers.
Didier Raoult - Wikipedia
He is a man who knows how to do a proper study for the advancement of medicine. He is not some local GP who is seeing his patients at the bedside and just trying something as a last resort.
Any attempt to paint Raoult as some Albert Schweitzer ministering to his critically ill patients simply fails. Saying he couldn't have his team of 200 do a placebo controlled study ignores his history of publishing huge numbers of papers and his being well aware of what kind of data was needed for his work to be accepted.
Here is a quote from Dr Raoult that may give some insight into his character.
"In my field, I am a star, worldwide," Raoult told the La Provence newspaper in France. "I don't give a damn what others think. I am not an outsider. I'm streaks ahead of the others."
As to your request I produce evidence of harm, if you read the papers you will see that Raoult excluded patients with cardiac risk factors. Why? Because he knows that both of these drugs but especially hydroxychloroquine can induce fatal events.
Here is a citation for you, the package insert for Plaquenil wherein it warns of sudden cardiac death.
And here is one for you on the risk of the same cardiac fatal events with azithromycin
Of course when you combine two meds both of which have known risks of cardiac events the potential to kill patients increases. And if the drug is useless, then any risk is unacceptable. Yes, I saw you knew that cardiac events could happen. I don't understand why you minimize that risk. And of course patients have died from this fatal rhythm disturbance. Otherwise that wouldn't be a known risk of the meds Sudden death
A small Chinese randomized study showed no benefit to using HCQ in 30 patients. The burden on Raoult is to prove the benefit outweighs the risk. I expect we will have good studies available within two weeks. I hope he is right. |
Your google fu is not quite up to the task.
Plaquenil and Arrhythmias - from FDA reports
Summary:
Arrhythmias is found among people who take Plaquenil, especially for people who are female, 60+ old , have been taking the drug for 6-12 months , also take medication Methotrexate, and have Osteoporosis. This study is created by eHealthMe based on reports of 48,911 people who have side effects when taking Plaquenil from Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
See that part about taking it for 6-12 months? They are prescribing these drugs for 6 days.
Leonid Schnieder, who writes For Better Science blog, is a hack who is being sued by several doctors and hospitals. Sure is a lotta smoke there. Calls DR Raoult a climate change denier among other things.
You "suspect" he is in his office while his employees treat the patients?. Allrighty then
You cite one Chinese study with no results, there are others that state good results. Personally I don't believe anything coming out of china, it appears they are selling bad covid tests and defective N95 masks all over the world.
Again, DRs in USA and all over the world are currently prescribing the 2 drugs for their coronavirus patients, they aren't stupid. Clinical trials all over the place. Dummies! Billion dollar drug companies are ramping up production of the drugs, I guess they are dummies too.