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Old 04-16-2020, 09:18 AM
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Wow, just keep shaking my head at this one! I get blueash...he's a research, fact-based, by the book professional and we're fortunate to have his insight. But, I'm watching video after video of doctors ON THE FRONT LINE saying there's NO approved therapy or cure so they're left to try to figure out the best therapy while their patients die. Hmmm, I truly believe if Trump touted tap water as beneficial, many would line up to call him crazy, urging an unproven, even dangerous (if too much consumed) therapy with unproven side-effects!

How about we let the doctors IN THE TRENCHES decide the best therapy until the study results are known. I cannot help but think the P-word has unfortunately reared its head in the utilization of the drug. Until then... my gut will always favor the THOUSANDS of doctors in the hundreds of ER's using this drug until a therapy is proven and established.
Mikeod seems to understand my posts. This has no relationship to Trump as a politician. It does relate to his promotion of an unproven therapy as if it were proven. He is not a scientist and has admitted he makes decisions on the basis of gut feelings as do you. That is perhaps appropriate in picking your friends, your cabinet, and what to buy for dinner. It is not fine for picking what drugs are best for particular illnesses.

I'll say it again... I do not oppose doctors trying desperate measures when there are no proven measures. If I were still practicing I might very well provide HCQ to my COVID patients.. but I'd be closely following the literature to see whether its use is being supported or refuted by properly conducted studies. It used to be a tongue in cheek comment when dealing with dying patients where you'd run out of options that "No patient should die without the benefit of steroids", and you'd order steroids.

The doctors in the trenches are not supplying the best therapy, they are supplying the therapy promoted by the POTUS outside of his area of any genius. Nobody knows yet if it is the best therapy; perhaps it is actually harmful without benefit. Your jump to using "best therapy" shows how the POTUS has influenced what should be a scientific analysis.

From a study in China:
"HCQ was also recently recommended by the American president Donald Trump. Such a presidential endorsement stimulates an avalanche of demand for HCQ, which buried the dark-side of this drug"

They put that comment in a research study. He should not be influencing medical practice. He is, even in China.

I will, until I burn out on it, continue to post studies on HCQ as I find them. I hope a controlled study establishes HCQ clinically helps patients. So far the evidence for benefit has not been presented.

Thank you for "he's a research, fact-based, by the book professional " I encourage you to find doctors who continue after medical school, to read the research and adjust their therapies based on facts, not gut feelings.

Last edited by blueash; 04-16-2020 at 11:36 AM. Reason: Found the study mentioning Trump and edited to correct