First of all, kudos to Steve, Kahuana and others who are engaging in a worthwhile, educational (for us dummies) discussion and presenting sides that I had never considered......good job guys !!!

I cannot add anything of any substance to the discussion but wanted to jump on the remark about remembering all that has happened with the auto industray and the mortgage/credit market in 2010. This current congress is such a HUGE disappointment ! We all need to research those had a hand in, especially the oversight, of this financial mess.

I still have that terrible gut feeling about the direction of this country, and that is to become so socialist and nationalist that we cannot recover. To me, our capitalistic society, with all its warts, is what has made us stand out from the rest of the world and I just cannot get rid of this terrible feeling that we are just simply sliding backwards to something that is doomed to failure.

Finally, and this will surprise those who read this board a lot....kudos to the Obama team for quick and decisive action on the economy thus far...no doubt their action had a lot to do with the last few days of resurgence on the market. While I have a few problems with some of the appointees, he surely did a good thing in addressing it in such a timely manner !