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Old 04-24-2020, 08:07 PM
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Goodlife : The MSM jumped on it with blaring headlines proclaiming failure and more deaths. It's no secret why they did.
You mean this MSM source COVID-19 treatment hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths in VA virus study | Fox News

That you would trot out Dr. Raoult to comment on data manipulation and small data sets is the height of hubris. This is the same Dr. Raoult whose paper on the success of HCZ contained 20 treated patients, and whose data deliberately ignored the 6 patients who deteriorated on his treatment. The doctor who the journal that published his report came back and said it was flawed by his inclusion criteria. He, who had 20 patients, is saying that a study of 368 is too small a sample. It is the largest collection of HCZ patients reported in any study so far. He criticizes the timing of administration of HCZ because the paper does not say when it was given. Then he jumps the shark to assert without any justification that it must have been given as a last desperate measure to men nearest to death. There is nothing in the study to support that statement. It is his wild guess. Lastly he criticizes that some patients also got azithromycin. Guess who did that in the study that made him recently famous. Yup, same Dr Raoult. He gave it to a few of his patients with no explanation in his paper as to why a few got it and most didn't. The outrageous gall of this man to criticize this paper for flaws he committed in this own work, with smaller numbers, is mind stunning.

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The drug “has been working on middle-age and younger veterans,” Wilkie added. By that, he meant that it was “stopping the progression of” COVID-19"
Wilkie is a political appointee of the POTUS. He gave no study to support his observation. There is absolutely not a study on what he claimed. He is not a medical doctor, he is a lawyer by training. I think I'll stick with what the doctors are reporting. Today the FDA as you likely know repeated its warning about HCZ, that it should not be given outside of a hospital or a clinical study. These are FDA real doctors who know how to read what the literature is saying to date.

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What is FDA doing?
To decrease the risk of these heart problems that can be life-threatening, we are warning the public that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, either alone or combined with azithromycin, when used for COVID-19 should be limited to clinical trial settings or for treating certain hospitalized patients under the EUA. FDA will continue to investigate risks associated with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for COVID-19, and we will communicate publicly when we have more information
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So FDA opinion, or that of a lawyer who is a political appointee about the drugs efficacy. I wrote a post about the VA study and noted its patient selection limitations. But the conclusion that the drug does not work on the most at risk patients is pretty clear. Older males with underlying illnesses.