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Goodlife: Again, most of the Doctors reporting good results advocate using the HCQ cocktail early and are emphatic about using zinc sulfate as well. Don't see that in the study.

C'mon, who are these "most of the Doctors" you mention. Find me any published study where the authors used Zinc sulfate as well. You don't see zinc in this study because it has not been used in any of the HCZ benefit found studies. You are prone to quoting Dr. Raoult. It was his flawed study that got HCZ in the news.

Remember what he did? He treated patients sick enough to be in the hospital, not treated early. He treated 14 with HCZ and reported that with six days almost all were better compared to less than 20% better without HCZ. No zinc given, not given early.

The only mentions of zinc helping have been by a couple doctors on TV who made the "you need zinc claim" and have disappeared since making those claims, not published anything, not come back with follow up data. There are studies being done, none have reported any findings.

We should of course take special note, as you did of Dr. Cardillo

Posted by Goodlife: Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.

"Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution." He said he has found it only works if combined with zinc. The drug, he said, opens a channel for the zinc to enter the cell and block virus replication.

LA doctor seeing success with hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 - ABC7 Los Angeles

Now that is an amazing report. Very very ill, and then symptom free in 12 hours. But you need the zinc. And you provided a link. Here's something very strange. The link does not have the statement you provided. Here's what it now says:

Of the 95 patients who have tested positive under Dr. Cardillo's care, five had symptoms serious enough for him to prescribe the combination treatment. All were outpatient.
He said, "The other 90 people did very well on their own. No treatment whatsoever."
He says chloroquine should not be taken as a preventative and it should not be given to people with mild symptoms. For some it can cause an irregular heartbeat that could be dangerous.
"This regimen has to be used on a hospital level, it has to be managed by physicians for people who are getting very sick," he said. "The basic tenet or principle of medicine is to do no harm."

Wow he treated 5 patients, and now the article does not make any 12 hour claims. And very very ill has morphed into all were outpatients. I can do math. He had 95 COVID patients. 90 got no treatment. 5 got combination treatment. Thus ZERO got HCZ without zinc. Where does the it only works with zinc come from? He never gives it without zinc so he has no idea. I don't know why the article has changed. Maybe the reporter got it wrong, maybe Cardillo said they misunderstood or he misspoke or he was "being sarcastic" when he made his claim. But his claim is gone from the link you gave. But the interview is still available on YouTube
He says that HCZ is useless unless given with zinc and that he is treating outpatients with the combination and all got better. He didn't say in the video it was 5 patients. And that he never treated anyone without zinc.

Funny how the literature has zero reports of zinc being needed for HCZ to "work" and you have "most doctors" If you treat your COVID patients really really early you will get a terrific cure rate. I understand that 99% of symptom free COVID patients recover if treated with properly rearranging their furniture.

Here's the point. Dr. Raoult's study claimed that hospitalized patients given just HCZ got better significantly more often and rapidly than those that did not. Nothing about zinc. Now people trying to replicate Raoult's data find it is not verifiable. In their data, HCZ fails. Either it works on its own or it doesn't. Nobody in any scientific paper has claimed HCZ plus zinc has shown benefit over just HCZ, or over no treatment. Nobody.