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Old 05-23-2020, 11:33 AM
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Can't make the connection between the reduced death total and the actions taken? Hmmmm. Of course everyone would then need to redefine seniors. I'm sure if you were in your 60's (some probably in your 70"s) you would identify as not being a senior. Heck, at 75 I still have trouble with people calling me a senior or vulnerable. We have all heard it before, hindsight is 20/20. It's easy for us to look at where we are and take shots at those that made the decisions to lockdown because we don't shoulder the responsibility. In six months hindsight will again lead the discussion and if those with the responsibility don't make the call that agrees with our bias and agenda, we will call for them to be fired also.
This is not hindsight for everybody. Meet Dr. Knut M. Wittkowski, PhD, ScD, who headed the Department Biostatistics, Epidemiology & Research Design at Rockefeller University in New York for 20 years. He looked into the claim that people were making that in China and in South Korea, social distancing had successfully helped to control the epidemic. He went through the data and found out that social distancing, isolation and lockdown measures were not put in place until well after the peak of the epidemic in those countries.
This hinted to the idea that herd immunity, not lockdown, was responsible for the already declining number of cases and deaths in those countries.

Dr Wittkowski emphasized that social distancing and lockdown measures were preventing herd immunity in the United States, and as a result there might be a ‘second wave’ that will come not long after lockdown measures ease. Of course, this second wave will mostly likely be attributed to lifting lockdown measures, when, according to Wittkowski, it will be a result of preventing herd immunity due to lockdown measures.

According to Wittkowski, lockdown measures should have never been put in place and isolation and quarantine measures should have only been put into place among the elderly, in long term care facilities and among people who are immune compromised while others ‘work’ to kill the virus by creating herd immunity. According to him, by doing what we have been doing we’re actually putting the elderly, and have put the elderly, in a worse off position.

Sweden is an example of this approach.

Dr Wittkowski was saying this in March, when lockdowns were first being considered. He had a video on all this on YouTube, watched by millions, which was censored and removed by YouTube, no reason given but probably because they thought it was misinformation.

It's pretty sad when one of the few scientists who actually had it right gets censored.

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