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Old 05-30-2020, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Heyitsrick View Post
Where is your contention coming from re: "taken out of context, and included intentionally to muddy the facts of the murder with supposition and doubt"?

Here's the exact quote, taken directly from the State of Minnesota complaint against the officer:

"The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (ME) conducted Mr. Floyd’s autopsy on May 26, 2020. The full report of the ME is pending but the ME has made the following preliminary findings. The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death."

If you read the complaint, you'll see there are the body cam accounts of what happened. All of the "Floyd didn't resist..." comments we can all read in this forum are countered directly by the body cam footage - according to the complaint.

Apparently the officers involved tried several times to get Floyd into their squad car. Floyd resisted. He actively resisted being handcuffed, according to the complaint. He apparently started saying he couldn't breathe while still standing.



That said, does that exonerate the officer who restrained Floyd for many minutes - even after, apparently, no pulse could be determined? Absolutely not. And you won't find me making that case. But this is seemingly another event where first impressions aren't telling the whole story.

Here is the official Minnesota complaint with amplifying information about this incident: https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...-Complaint.pdf
Some people are concluding, wrongly, that the ME's determination was final and comprehensive, because some people are reading snippets with missing words - such as the ones in your quote that I bolded, italicized, and underlined.

People are basing their opinions on the falsehood that this PRELIMINARY, INCOMPLETE examination proved that...

1. George Floyd was able to resist AT THE TIME THE VIRAL VIDEO WAS RECORDED...
2. George Floyd was absolutely intoxicated...
3. George Floyd was a threat to the four officers,
4. Chauvin was the only one subduing George Floyd
5. Chauvin did what he was trained to do...
6. Chauvin didn't kill George Floyd
7. Chauvin didn't know Floyd was either dead OR unconscious and therefore incapable of knowing that he was trying to subdue a dead (or unconscious) man.

There are people basing their vilification of George Floyd and vindication of Chauvin on this preliminary, incomplete medical examination.

And there are people hopping on that bandwagon on purpose, spurring it on, encouraging people to vilify Floyd and vindicate Chauvin, because it helps them create the wars, riots, looting, hatred, division, and split from humanity that they are intentionally trying to create.