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Originally Posted by blueash
There was a lengthy thread, shut down by the moderator when it got nasty, regarding the investigation instigated by NASCAR after a noose was found at a race track.
The thread was titled
Nascar Noose story may be a hoax or case of mistaken identity
See those were the only two possibilities mentioned.
I could cite many more. This gist of the majority of postings on the thread was that there was no real noose, it was all fake news. Now more information is out including the actual unretouched, uncropped photo and data from NASCAR about the pull down ropes on every other garage door in its sport.
There was exactly ONE noose found in examining 1,684 stalls. ONE. And only 11 ropes tied in a knot out of 1,684 stalls. And this is a noose. It wasn't aimed at Mr. Wallace and may not have been made maliciously. But it is absolutely not a standard rope on a garage door. It was not an over-reaction or fake. It was not a hoax and it was not mistaken identity. It was a real noose, and the only rope at a NASCAR facility tied into a noose. And to those who are seemingly willingly blind to the reasons there was concern. I offer this photograph. |
My my we've been busy. Gosh that Nascar noose photo sure looks scary. Big thick rope and huge loop with lots of nasty coils at the top. Only problem is, the closeup photo was designed to look scary and the noose isn't a noose. Nascar photographer Bob Pockrass showed on twitter a photo he took of the same garage and "noose" in October 2019. You can see it's not a thick rope, probably 1/4 inch, and the loop is maybe 3-4 inches wide. You couldn't fit a baby's head through that loop.
Nascar President Steve Phelps, seeing his companies image getting hammered on social media, probably said I want the scariest closeup of the noose we have! Stat!!
It's not a noose anyway. How do I know? Well I tied several knots exactly like that last night on my friends boat 20 miles offshore from Tarpon Springs. We use knots like that for leaders or hook when we are going after big strong fish like Groupers. Once you tighten down the knot and trim the tag line, it looks just like the Nascar photo. But it is not a noose, no matter how hard you pull on the loop, it does not tighten, even if you are a 500 pound grouper. Pull on an actual noose, and the loop tightens.
Video: how to tie a Duncan loop knot
Fishing Knots: How to Tie a Duncan Loop Knot - YouTube
Here's one on a swimming pool thermometer, pretty scary!
So Bubba's noose is not a noose, as the FBI described it " a garage door pull down rope fashioned like a noose" Even Bubba knows it's not a noose, he described it on the today show as "Not a functioning noose, but it is a noose." Bubba and Nascar can call it a noose and seem to like to, but IT IS KNOT A NOOSE
So do I still think this is a hoax? Yes indeed and here's why.
The Nascar photo of the "noose" was taken Sunday afternoon, we know this because you can see puddles on the pavement, rain was reason race on Sunday was postponed until Monday. According to Nascar's published timeline, Nascar was notified of the incident at 4:30 PM on Sunday and they immediately sent a team to investigate. At this time the "noose" was still attached to the garage pull down rope. Later on Sunday Phelps had a tearful briefing with Bubba where he shared details and undoubtably photos of the "noose" Both Nascar and Bubba put out breathless and heroic statements of the disgusting racial hate incident.
On Monday Morning, Nascar called FBI and they sent 15 agents to investigate the crime scene and view the horrible nooselike loop knot on the garage pull down rope. The noose was cut down as shown in photos taken Monday
On Monday at 1:12 PM Nascar Prez Steve Phelps held a press teleconference, answering various questions.
Q. Can you confirm, was the rope the rope that normally you would pull down the garage door?
STEVE PHELPS: I am not sure. I have no information on that.
That's straight up lies right there, why would I trust another word he says?
So nobody from the Nascar team that was sent to the garage the day before had briefed the President of the company that the "noose" was at the end of the garage pull down rope and showed him photos?
Later Monday they had the beautiful cathartic photo op with all the drivers pushing Bubba's car. It was super woke.
On Tuesday The FBI announced it was not a racial hate crime, the 'Noose" had been there since October 2019, and a Wood Brothers racing team member had seen it when they used the same garage.
So all the hoopla about a racial hate crime was milked for all it's worth even though Nascar knew it was just a garage pull down rope with a loop knot and not a functioning noose on the very first day. How admirable.
About those 1600 garages Nascar had surveyed and the only one with a "noose" was Bubbas? There are photos all over the internet of loops on the garage door ropes at numerous Talladega garages from 2017 and on. I guess they all just majically disappeared before this incident. Or maybe Phelps told his team, I want every door inspected and if there are any loops, untie them and report to me that none were found. Remember, he's getting hammered in social media, and he's a corporate executive. They never tell fibs do they?
Also, in the Nascar photo, on the left you can see part of a person standing there. He is wearing a Wood Brothers racing team jersey, so we know they knew about the rope being the same in October 2019 on Sunday, or at the latest early Monday morning.
That rope in the Nascar image does look brand new doesn't it? Maybe Nascar mechanics wash their hands a lot. Doesn't really matter, they pushed a hoax when they knew the truth was something different.
