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Originally Posted by GoodLife

Big thick rope? The rope is neither big or thick, just seen from a closer view in one photo; that's how perspective works.

The Nascar photo close up with no perspective makes rope look thicker, loop look bigger, more menacing. The 2019 photo shows it in scale, a 1/4 inch rope with a small loop of 3-4 inches. This was done with a purpose.

So anything that doesn't show the entire door is somehow "menacing"? How would anyone take a closer picture then? Closeups of wild animals might be scary; ropes don't really have the same effect.

Originally Posted by GoodLife

So it has to actually function in order to be seen as a noose? I don't remember hearing anything even implying that it was fully functional. Who'd have tested it?

Please, initial Nascar, Bubba, Media reports all called it a noose. Not looks like a noose, fashioned like a noose. But a Noose. It's not, If it doesn't tighten when pulling on the loop it is not a noose. Period. Of course the Nascar team and the FBI would have tested this immediately.

OK, "alleged", non-functioning noose. Better?

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Where did it say when the photo with the noose still hanging was taken? From nascar.com: NASCAR completes investigation into No. 43 at Talladega | NASCAR
"Monday, June 22
– Early Monday a.m.: FBI Birmingham office reaches out to NASCAR.
~ 10 a.m.: FBI arrives at Talladega Superspeedway with 15 field agents to begin investigation. NASCAR provides the FBI with a list of personnel with access to the garage, as well as video and images taken from the weekend and the 2019 fall weekend as well."
Wouldn't that suggest that it was an earlier photo, as you seem to imply below?*

It's obvious the photo was taken on Sunday afternoon. Puddles on the pavement, rain on Sunday forced postponement till Monday. Photos taken on Monday show "noose" was cut from the rope. They didn't leave it hanging. The earlier photo was taken in October 2019, that and how they knew it wasn't put there for Bubba. Wood Brothers racing had the same stall in 2019 and told Nascar and FBI that it was seen by them then.

I'm still missing something here. You say that the Wood Brothers were using this stall in 2019 and also said earlier that the guy partially shown in the scary photo is "wearing a Wood Brothers racing team jersey, so we know they knew about the rope being the same in October 2019". So how does that mean that the photo is from Sunday, 6/21/20? It can't be both ways.

Originally Posted by GoodLife;1792649[B

Yeah, didn't see 'em. Did a search for "Talladega noose" & "Talladega rope" images; nothing but what we've already seen right here. Have any links? Please, no more looong, boring videos though.[/B]

photos of loop knots on garage pulls Talladega 2017, there's more buy don't want to bore you with video evidence.

Well, thanks for that anyway! I've wasted enough time watching videos that you've claimed contained proof, but really didn't. But, just to be a stickler for detail, are any of the photos or videos from this year?

Originally Posted by GoodLife

I don't know about "brand new"; are all the other ropes dirtier? You call it a hoax, but the FBI never seemed to come to that conclusion

It looks pretty new but doesn't matter. The same rope and "noose" are seen in October 2019 photo posted above. FBI was called in to investigate a hate crime. They said none exists. The hoax was perpetuated by Nascar Bubba etc because they knew from the get go it was just a pull down rope with a knot that looked like a noose, but wasn't a real noose, and they knew that it had been there since October 2019. Phelps straight up lied during his teleconference on Monday, he already knew the whole story. That's the hoax.

You're absolutely right, it doesn't matter. But what you insist is a hoax would seem to be at most a misunderstanding in a sticky situation involving a Black driver & what positively LOOKS like a noose. Did NASCAR over-react, possibly even cover their butts when stating there were no other "nooses" in any stalls? Could be.
The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line, the simplest explanation is usually the right one. This theory you present doesn't seem to stand up to the definition of 'hoax', IMO. It's obviously still your right to believe it though.