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Originally Posted by GoodLife

So anything that doesn't show the entire door is somehow "menacing"? How would anyone take a closer picture then? Closeups of wild animals might be scary; ropes don't really have the same effect.

Look at Nascar photo of "noose" taken June 21 vs same exact "noose" in same exact garage taken October 2019. Which one looks bigger and more scary? This isn't hard. You can't tell from Nascar photo that it is a garage pull down rope and you can't tell how big it really is.

It really isn't hard: neither one looks scary at all. Before NASCAR published the closeup, people were saying that they hadn't seen any noose photos and that the one from a distance looked like a bowline, etc. It's not a bowline, it's a non-functioning noose. The angle wasn't contrived for any nefarious purpose; it was a closer image, plain & simple.

Originally Posted by GoodLife

OK, "alleged", non-functioning noose. Better?

If your butcher cut a piece of rump roast to look like a filet mignon and sold it to you for $20 a pound would you be happy? Words matter. It's not a noose.

That's not a matter of words at all... Looks matter, too. Try walking past TSA with a non-functioning weapon in your hand. Right?
You seem to be expecting that someone needed to actually test the noose to see if it tightened and I can't image that happening or even mattering. Phelps has said, "'In hindsight, I should have used the word "alleged" in our statement." Also,
"'As you can see from the photo, the noose was real, as was our concern for Bubba' Phelps continued." NASCAR releases photo of the suspected 'noose' found in Bubba Wallace's garage | Daily Mail Online Maybe "non-functioning" would have been better?

Originally Posted by GoodLife

I'm still missing something here. You say that the Wood Brothers were using this stall in 2019 and also said earlier that the guy partially shown in the scary photo is "wearing a Wood Brothers racing team jersey, so we know they knew about the rope being the same in October 2019". So how does that mean that the photo is from Sunday, 6/21/20? It can't be both ways.

The Bubba "noose" was discovered on Sunday June 21. Photos from the next day show it had been cut down. Sunday was rainy, race postponed. Puddles in Nascar photo. When do you think the photo was taken?

That's what I'm asking you. One time you say it rained on Sunday, 6/21/20 so that proves that it was taken on Monday, 6/22/20. Then you say that the guy in the background of the same photo is proof that the noose existed in 2019. Very contradictory & confusing.

Originally Posted by GoodLife

Well, thanks for that anyway! I've wasted enough time watching videos that you've claimed contained proof, but really didn't. But, just to be a stickler for detail, are any of the photos or videos from this year?

I've posted this video several times, showing lots of "nooses" at Talladega since 2016
It's only 2 minutes long, so watch carefully and let me know if there's no proof. Nascar Steve Phelps claims all nooses at all Nascar tracks have magically disappeared and the only one found was in Bubba's garage. Since he lied in his teleconference last Monday, I don't believe a word he says.

I haven't seen this 2-minute video that you posted, but still, nope. I don't care about 2016 & it just doesn't apply. Answer my question above, please.
I'm fairly sure that "all nooses at all Nascar tracks have magically disappeared and the only one found was in Bubba's garage." are in fact your words & not Steve Phelps'.

Originally Posted by GoodLife

You're absolutely right, it doesn't matter. But what you insist is a hoax would seem to be at most a misunderstanding in a sticky situation involving a Black driver & what positively LOOKS like a noose. Did NASCAR over-react, possibly even cover their butts when stating there were no other "nooses" in any stalls? Could be.
The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line, the simplest explanation is usually the right one. This theory you present doesn't seem to stand up to the definition of 'hoax', IMO. It's obviously still your right to believe it though.


Definition of hoax : an act intended to trick or dupe

Nascar Prez Steve Phelps and Bubba Wallace knew it was a non functioning "noose" at the end of a garage pull down rope on Sunday afternoon, and they knew it was not targeted at Bubba either by Sunday afternoon or at the latest Monday morning because Wood Brothers racing told them same "noose" was at same garage in 2019.

Yet they still went ahead with breathless racial hatred statements, called FBI to investigate, staged a kumbaya Bubba car push, and rode the woke train until FBI affirmed what they already knew, it was a garage pull down rope that had been there since at least October 2019. Nascar and Bubba are still claiming "the noose was real"

The 'functioning' thing again?!?! It LOOKS just like a noose, it really doesn't have to be used as one IF there had been a message. Everyone is relieved that it was not an act of racism directed at Bubba Wallace. Moving on...