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Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Not sure what you mean. I don't care what any retailer paid for an item. But, car dealers routinely want to show you a bogus invoice to make you think they are losing money when they sell you a car. I never ask for an invoice and if they give me a copy, I just hand it back to them. Some dealers even quote an invoice cost in their ads and claim they will sell you the car for less than what they paid. These invoices are a popular gimmick that don't represent the dealer's cost for the car.

The last car I bought, I made a take-it-or-leave-it offer based on the KBB.com fair value calculation, including trade-in. The sales manager came out of his office and told me that, if he sold me the car for that price, he would be losing $200. I politely told him that I didn't want him to lose money, so I would buy the car from another dealer. Within 5 minutes, he accepted my offer.

Nicely done.