substantially off subject. The usual mix is ever present and welcome obviously. The other usual that is ever present is, the threads when taken off subject usually wind up in a my guy is better than your guy. And of course there is the consistent droning and deteriorating to the level of measuring/bashing Bush...no matter the subject.

This thread has been erroneously categorized as a "...discussion of personalities..."

From VK' latest post...."If discussion of the personalities in our political leadership is of greater interest, threads like this one might be more to people's liking".

This thread was not submitted as a discussion of personalities. The subject matter was very specifically aimed at performance....promises made VS promises kept. If one would go back to the beginning and note the not so subtle transition (polite for hijack) from the subject of the thread to the usual thrumming of personalities.

I don't think the answer to holding the deterioration of political threads to "discussions of personalities" at bay is to post a political thread under a different forum.

In my humble opinion, it should be more appropriate to request in a Political thread that responses should not be personality discussions by actually pointing out the subject of the thread. I have tried this in the past to no avail as it seems there are those who have a single purpose/objective and that is to slant every discussion to personality bickering.

If taking a political subject, with a no personality discussion wanted guideline works simply by posting it in another forum, then why not place the subject in the appropriate forum with the same requested guideline? We are all dealing with what we think we read or our individual interpretation thereof VS the writer's actual intent VS what some participants would rather the subject be (no matter what). I know, how about we request a new non discussion of personalities political thread.

Anyway, see ya at the other forum to monitor success of the adherence to the request.

BTK