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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

And the issue that people "think" is an issue isn't even voter fraud. It's MAIL voter fraud, exclusively. Because they forget that there has been live-in-person voter fraud, including "misplaced" physical ballots, certain people from certain parties offering rides to the polls, only to ensure that those rides either go to the wrong place, or show up after the polls close (yes, that has happened), or are ordered to not give rides at all (that happened in 2016, it was in the news, captured live at the time it was happening).

Mail-in voter fraud is, in some random person's vernacular, a "nothingberder." It just isn't a thing. It's a conspiracy created by people who know their candidate doesn't stand a chance of winning if people who are unable to get to the polls on election day, are allowed to mail their votes in advance.

Who is most likely to not be able to get to the polls? Here's who:

Poor black, white, and latino people in rural areas of the south. Why? Because their polling places were shut down, and they are forced to travel to areas they don't know. Many of them don't have vehicles, and they don't have mass transit to just take them wherever they need to go. So they end up not voting at all. And - they represent a significant portion of those electoral areas that -might- flip, if those people actually were able to vote that day. Rather than take a chance that their person won't win the election, they just make it difficult to impossible for those voters to vote at all.

Do you REALLY want someone that is too stupid, sorry ignorant to find a voting place to vote in an election? Sorry but I do not believe that folks that wish to vote would let finding the location to be a problem, just like I do not believe that they would be disenfranchised if required to produce a picture ID.