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Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The US had 18% GREATER deaths during the CV period this year than the average deaths for the same period in other years. That increase can be attributed to CV . Therefore, the REAL number of CV deaths today is probably 270,000. In case someone thinks that this is not possible - compare it with other countries. Mexico is up 62% - that makes sense because Mexico does not have hospitals as good as the US. Peru has a 150% increase.

Now the clincher!!!! - Germany, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, S.Korea, and Thailand have had a ZERO INCREASE - NONE - And now their people are leading normal lives. Why? I am guessing that it is because of National Health Care. There certainly could be other factors.

Please provide your source for the first comments.

As to your second paragraph, not completely true. All have seen upticks but none of those countries totally locked down like us with the exception of South Korea and that did not help at all. FYI, life is back to normal in Sweden and they never locked down.

And I seriously doubt that nationalized health care would have contributed to ANY decrease.