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Originally Posted by davephan
About 90% of the college majors have poor to low return on investment. Many people get a worthless college degree, and end up getting a low wage job that they could have obtained with no college degree.
I worked in low wage jobs for almost two decades, before going to a low cost technical college, and obtained a two year IT degree in one year. My starting wage at the IT job was double what I used to make. After about 15 years on the IT job, I was making 5 to 6 times the customer service job.
People need to invest in themselves to increase their job skills in careers that have a good return on the education investment in time and money.
In the trades, an electrician is equal to 3 carpenters. A plumber is equal to 5 carpenters. Moral of the story, become a plumber, not a carpenter, if you work in the trades.
The $15 wage is not a panacea. Target raised the wages to $15 and hour. At the same time, full time workers became part tie workers with no benefits.
Most people have it within themselves to do much more than they think that they can do. I limited my income for almost two decades, working low wage jobs. People have to acquire the job skills so that they can earn higher incomes.
With Socialism or Communism, everyone is brought down to the low level. Imagine hard working students who get A’s, are given C’s, so that all students can receive a C, even the lazy students, that are unwilling to work hard.
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Totally agree with you with one exception that is a bit misleading. Definitely not 90% of college grads make a "bad" investment. If you look deeper, sadly, to many students choose the wrong major IF pay back is their major focus. We always had many students who were only interested in degrees in social work, marketing, and others. While fine majors, follow you heart's desire, they are usually warned (not always) that they have not chosen high paying fields (if that is what they are seeking, return on investment). Then, there are many who do not choose their college or university carefully. Not necessary to go Ivy League or top 10, but the problem comes in when students are not detailed in researching things like accreditation, research and writing recognition of faculty (again, MANY FINE small schools have outstanding faculty), and much more. So many "invest" in schools with poor track records of placement assistance, lack of accreditation, and now the valuable outreach of making the higher education experience available to a larger audience via technology, has resulted in a much devalued educational experience and ultimately a "useless" degree (thought ALL learning is valuable in that it enriches the individual's personal life and self-esteem). But, 90% figure of "useless" degrees and debt is too high, not accurate. Same exists in "trade" schools, must be very careful, some are very valuable, some are definitely NOT ! Regarding your comment about people investing in themselves, RIGHT ON ! Have you noticed (those of you who have traveled, lived, and studied abroad a great deal) that our country seems to be one where people are more willing to invest in hobbies, and nicer tech items, clothing, shoes, etc. than they are in themselves ? Not a condemnation, just an observation. Last comment on your post. I believe the reason so many people do not truly understand the repercussions of socialism and the progression to communism (not due to basic ideology but due to the pure greed and ambition of those who feel the power of being "in charge" of so many) is because so many have NOT actually known someone who lived under such systems, who have personal knowledge. Here in Florida we have the advantage of actually knowing people who have lived in Cuba, Venezuela, and many island and central American countries, as well as those from various European autocratic governments. Once people have a personal contact/friend who has actually known that life, their perspective changes and they begin to really understand.