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Originally Posted by bimmertl
Steve
Since Gitmo's inception, the US military has been representing the interests of the United States regarding the Gitmo detainees, by serving as prosecutors, and judges, while members of the same US military have been representing the interests of the Gitmo detainees as defense attorneys. Do you find that curious?
And Bucco, once again you have created "Bucco facts". The FALN prisoners had their sentences commuted after serving about 20 years in prison. They weren't "pardoned" as stated as a "fact" by you.
Also, weren't you always on your high horse assailing those who used to deservedly "Bush bash" and resort to name calling. I guess calling Obama shallow isn't name calling, if done by you.
Here's one for the road, in the words of Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, "the Bush administration is one of the most arrogant incompetent administrations I have ever seen or read about". Obama has a long way to go to top that crowd.
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1. The FALN prisoners were commuted by President Clinton and many in the Justice Department were dead set against it. Mr. Holder held the liine and pushed hard for their commutation and defended it in the justice department. I apologize profusely for using the word pardon but would ask what the misuse of that word did to alter the point being made.
2. Well, if using the term shallow is calling names, I plead guilty although what I said was "apparently" shallow !! I suppose I could have used the terms used on this board by those who were touting him during the campaign but during the primary called him an "empty suit", but I stand by my comment of APPARENTLY SHALLOW......based on what I have seen thus far that would be my opinion. When I am ready to call him shallow, albeit when all the facts are in, you will be the first to know.
3. I agree to some point with Hagel on the Bush administration for sure and have said so on here many times. Your apparent hate for Bush is distorting your need to look at facts. He said he would allow the american citizens to review all bills before signing. HE DID NOT DO THAT. He said there would be a new line on lobbyist in WASH, except in his administration where he is signing waivers thus HE DID NOT DO IT.
I recall during the Ashcroft nomination process a few years ago where the stunned and flabbergasted politicians went after him with all weapons. Why....well, basically because he was too right and too religious. I do recall however that he paid his taxes. Thus having top people not paying taxes and while President Obama surely did say he "screwed up", less than 24 hours before that he was touting his nominee and he knew the tax situation then.
THIS KIND OF ACTION is not CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.
4, He made a big deal out of no pork in the stimulus bill. We will see how that goes.
Listen, you can love President Obama and worship at his feet. That makes you as bad as those who worshiped at President Bush's feet. If you want folks to simply say he is correct in everything simply because he is a great speaker, please dont count me in on that.