[J1ceasar]

When my kids started being of the age to drive I went on my long crusade of buying cars I think I bought six cars for three kids over 6 years. My best friend's friend worked for a car dealer and the first car we bought was a VW convertible which is what my daughter wanted. Being a used car it had a sticker on it. The nice sales lady who knew we were friends of a friend simply took $4,000 off the used car sticker price. That was probably the easiest sale she ever made in half an hour and the easiest negotiation I never had to do that's just shows you how much they make on used cars. Just so you know new cars are marked up eight to 12% maximum and then the dealers can get advertising rebates floor rebates, all these are rebates besides the consumer rebates of 0% and specific car model and option rebates buying a new car itself is crazy and you'll probably lose 5 to $10,000 in one year in depreciation but that's up to you. I firmly believe most car salesmen are there to take up your time and get you to be impatient to just accept an offer after two or three hours. As others have said above most car salesman last one or two months because it's truly a hard job with a lot of rejection. You have to research the car you want you have to know what the wholesale value of your used car is and keep in mind it has to be three to $4,000 below what the retail is. The internet is your friend get to doing some research. The finance manager today is much more than that you should either know